Prison Break - Season 4
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sauce
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Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
Dudes watching the OC?
Dudes watching the OC?
I watched it too, but stopped at 2nd season, the first was good :-pp
On topic: Is the building they wanna find the one T-Bag is? GATE? Cause I'm pretty sure someone from Scofield's crew mention this GATE before. Or not?
The scene Linc thanks Bellick was ridiculous
On topic: Is the building they wanna find the one T-Bag is? GATE? Cause I'm pretty sure someone from Scofield's crew mention this GATE before. Or not?
The scene Linc thanks Bellick was ridiculous
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
more proof that i recon somethings wrong with micheal and further makes my prediction true about what will happen to micheal or has already happened to him.
check my earlier posts to see what i mean unless its ok to post spoilers now as its been televised?
more proof that i recon somethings wrong with micheal and further makes my prediction true about what will happen to micheal or has already happened to him.
check my earlier posts to see what i mean unless its ok to post spoilers now as its been televised?
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Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
Last two posts deleted because A) one of the posts was from a now-banned member and B) both posts were unspoilered.
Anybody reading those posts who wasn't up to speed with the series wouldn't have been very happy. Please use the spoiler tags when appropriate.
It's...
Last two posts deleted because A) one of the posts was from a now-banned member and B) both posts were unspoilered.
Anybody reading those posts who wasn't up to speed with the series wouldn't have been very happy. Please use the spoiler tags when appropriate.
It's...
easy.
D
DagsJT
Guest
Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
Who was banned?
Who was banned?
pboreham
Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.
Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
Getting tired with PB now - like I said, T-Bag is the only reason to keep watching!
Getting tired with PB now - like I said, T-Bag is the only reason to keep watching!
D
DagsJT
Guest
Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
Hmm i'm the opposite, I'm intrigued by this season, and T-Bag does my head in
Hmm i'm the opposite, I'm intrigued by this season, and T-Bag does my head in
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
ahh ok cool no probs. the guy who posted after me diddnt use a spoiler tag so i assumed that after PB is aired here we dont have to use spoiler tags.
pboreham
Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.
Re: Prison Break - Season 4 (September 1)
Ah no way! The man is genius!
Hmm i'm the opposite, I'm intrigued by this season, and T-Bag does my head in
Ah no way! The man is genius!
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ThomasGOAL
Retired Footballer
- 15 March 2003
great episode, like old time
Placebo
Ԁlɐɔǝqo
Watched 3 and 4 on consecutive days yesterday and today, loving it, it's like a
, sure it's far fetched but IMO it doesn't err on the side of silly so I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
modern Macguver now
406
Great episode, some badass moments, some over ze top moments too.
Sometimes the show is more of a comedy but it's not a big deal.
8+/10
THEY LISTENNED TO ME !!!
It was a nice formula to have Mahone arrested and bring his badass attitude.
If almost stopped the episode when they got 95% of the key.
i was talking to me : "No, no, no. NO, NO, NO !!! They can't do that again !". Ouf....
It was a nice formula to have Mahone arrested and bring his badass attitude.
If almost stopped the episode when they got 95% of the key.
i was talking to me : "No, no, no. NO, NO, NO !!! They can't do that again !". Ouf....
Great episode, some badass moments, some over ze top moments too.
Sometimes the show is more of a comedy but it's not a big deal.
8+/10
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Milanista
Mangiamoli!
I thought Prison Break was always a comedy..??? This episode was very Oceans 11. Lincoln is by far the best tv character in history.
Kenny G
Stuck in the 80's
Agree with PBoreham 100%. I only watch for Tea Bag now. He's the local friendly neighbourhood Pedo and all, but he's still the be best character. The show is just a series of heists now and the start of series 4 just completely made series 3 worthless with Tea Bag, Sucre and Bellick making such an easy escape from Panama.
As soon as Sarah Tenkredi was back on screen the speedboat cleared the ramp and over the sharks below.....
As soon as Sarah Tenkredi was back on screen the speedboat cleared the ramp and over the sharks below.....
OPM
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- 2 June 2003
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brilliant how they cut open the safe last week with the general and the cardholder in the other room, just stuck in the missing part and they didn't even notice - no debris or anything, lol
sure thing - this show sucks, big time.
still i enjoy watching it, just for a laugh.
sure thing - this show sucks, big time.
still i enjoy watching it, just for a laugh.
pboreham
Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.
Spot on! You will see in the Sarah Connor thread I just posted in, that I called this 'Oceans14' last night (we watched the last 2 weeks episodes).
I'd go as far as to say awful - and as Kenny says below, T-Bag and his story is the best thing in it. Even the Gretchan story is more entertaining than the weekly heists.
How can one show go so bad
Series one was incredible, edge of the seat stuff and now its just a farce.Totally. Wish they would do a T-Bag spin off, but trouble is, his character has gone from something totally evil in Series 1, to bit of a pantomime character now - in the show for entertainment. That said, its still the best reason to keep watching...
Shame
brilliant how they cut open the safe last week with the general and the cardholder in the other room, just stuck in the missing part and they didn't even notice - no debris or anything, lol
sure thing - this show sucks, big time.
still i enjoy watching it, just for a laugh.
Yea, said that last night too. Ignoring the noise, there would be so much dust and debris in the safe.
And I assume the other agent walking back into his office and seeing a large hole in the wall would mean he would immediately go into the other office and check/speak to the other agent. Which in turn, would alert the dodgy agent and the 'General' that someone was trying to get the cards.
Its just stupid and I found the story quite insulting to my intelligence last night!
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DagsJT
Guest
The guy wouldn't go back to his office and see the hole, apparantly there's a bookcase in the way which they moved first 
I quite enjoyed last nights show. Sure, it's taken a different twist to the original PB storyline but it's still enjoyable even if it is a little less serious about itself.
I quite enjoyed last nights show. Sure, it's taken a different twist to the original PB storyline but it's still enjoyable even if it is a little less serious about itself.
pboreham
Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.
The guy wouldn't go back to his office and see the hole, apparantly there's a bookcase in the way which they moved first
Did they? Didnt see that. Still silly though as there would be dust and shite everywhere...
Kenny G
Stuck in the 80's
Quite an interesting article on Digital Spy about where Prison Break is going wrong:
'Prison Break's Great Character Assassinations
Sunday, October 5 2008, 08:00 BST
By Ben Rawson-Jones, Cult Editor
'Prison Break's Great Character Assassinations
In television, everything has a shelf life. Prison Break appeared to be dangerously nearing its expiry date during the insipid third season. It was spared the axe in the hope that its quality could be restored to its early glory days, but despite a cast reshuffle and new mission, interest is still on the wane. Cult Spy looks at the increasing ineffectiveness of the characters on the show.
There's little doubt that the first two seasons of the jailbreak drama were consistently gripping and great, as we marvelled at Michael Scofield's cunning plans and the fractious relationships between the dastardly convicts. The constraints of the show's title and format compelled Prison Break's creative forces to place several characters behind bars in Sona Prison last year, but this paled in comparison to the thrilling Fox River days. A procession of dire episodes ensued, with only the fluctuating state of Scofield's sweat patch providing any entertainment.
A massive problem for the show is the comparative redundancy of Michael Scofield as a character these days. He relied on his body art to provide an intricately-plotted escape route from Fox River prison, and was buoyed by the injustice of his brother's imprisonment. Nowadays, that spark and ingenuity appears to have been lost and he says or does very little of interest. Like the mighty Samson losing his strength once his hair was shorn, it appears that the removal of his upper body tattoo has drained Scofield of his powers too.
Of course, the team dynamic of 'Scofield's Dirty Half Dozen' means that the workload is shared and individual characters are suffering due to some poor writing. Lincoln Burrows can barely do more than grunt or glare, Sucre is a mere shell dreaming of Marie Cruz and Bellick's interesting domestic background with his mother has been totally forgotten about in favour of, well, nothingness. As for new recruit Roland, he just sits there waiting for cards to download. He's probably so bored with the repetitive nature of the Scylla card-retrieval plots that he's on MSN Messenger or Skype all day. It's hard to blame him.
Even the more interesting and reliable supporting characters appear to have been placed in some kind of stasis for the opening episodes of the current season. Alexander Mahone, played brilliantly by William Fichtner, is eminently watchable but has spent far too long brooding in isolation over the murder of his son, just like he was wasted in the third season in cold turkey mode. He needs to return to his skilful, sleuthing old self and dispose of Wyatt - the laughably bumbling Company hitman who is a very poor replacement for the wonderful Agent Kellerman.
How long has T-Bag spent trying to decipher Whistler's bird book? It appears he'll feature in a couple of scenes every episode doing just that, as if reminding viewers that he's still knocking around. T-Bag is a fascinating character for mainstream television - a murderous, raping paedophile who often provides comic relief and a certain sinister appeal. He just needs to be more involved, as does the callous Gretchen. Why keep such a great figure locked up in a cell for so long when the series is crying out for such a sexy, ruthlessly ball-busting figure?
One character who perhaps should have been kept hidden away is Dr. Sara Tancredi. After her Se7en-style beheading last season - a desperate move to revive flagging viewer interest through shock tactics - many cited her absence as the reason for the show's sudden failings. Scofield needs a love interest, a motivation they claimed. In reality, he needed some interesting plots, dialogue and an anti-perspirant.
Sara's return has done neither the characters nor show any favours. Remember the jaw-dropping slaying of the original female lead Veronica Donovan at the beginning of the second season? That was very effective and not signposted at all. Sara's contrived revival - apparently Lincoln didn't look at the disembodied head properly - simply means that any future shock twists will have their impact lessened because we won't trust what we're being shown. How do we know that the bullet that went into Whistler's head didn't go round inside his cranium like a pinball machine and still not kill him? He might have merely 'played dead'.
Prison Break has always been a show that's stretched credulity, and often in fun and engrossing ways, but Tancredi's comeback took the proverbial biscuit. In the grand scheme of things, what purpose has she served since her return apart from allowing Wentworth Miller the chance to emote and pucker up? Well, it allowed the writers to kill off the inconsequential character of Bruce Bennett , the man who tried to keep Sara's existence a secret from Wyatt. Even then, how drawn out was his torture and death for such an inconsequential and peripheral character?
Crucially, the pacing of these story arcs highlights just how poorly Prison Break is using the structure of the episodic season format. A major lack of incident and increasingly repetitive card-cloning plots governed several episodes following the fourth season premiere. The writers appear to be building up to certain event episodes, like the mid-season and season finales, and padding out the episodes in between. This was the case last year, when the explosive end to the third season, featuring the Sona breakout, wasn't sufficient enough to forgive the earlier meandering.
The characters, to a large extent, are reliant on their predicaments to generate interest and have suffered as a result. The most recent instalment of Prison Break, featuring a racetrack heist and Mahone's arrest and escape, did function as a reminder of how good the show can be when the characters have a clear and defined purpose within an episode. It also brought together T-Bag and Gretchen, so let's hope the pair prove a dynamite combination and are given more screen time. Mahone also appears to be closing in on Wyatt, so fingers crossed that the revenge narrative will have a pay-off very soon. Otherwise, given tumbling ratings, the show might not be on air long enough to see a resolution.
'Prison Break's Great Character Assassinations
Sunday, October 5 2008, 08:00 BST
By Ben Rawson-Jones, Cult Editor
'Prison Break's Great Character Assassinations
In television, everything has a shelf life. Prison Break appeared to be dangerously nearing its expiry date during the insipid third season. It was spared the axe in the hope that its quality could be restored to its early glory days, but despite a cast reshuffle and new mission, interest is still on the wane. Cult Spy looks at the increasing ineffectiveness of the characters on the show.
There's little doubt that the first two seasons of the jailbreak drama were consistently gripping and great, as we marvelled at Michael Scofield's cunning plans and the fractious relationships between the dastardly convicts. The constraints of the show's title and format compelled Prison Break's creative forces to place several characters behind bars in Sona Prison last year, but this paled in comparison to the thrilling Fox River days. A procession of dire episodes ensued, with only the fluctuating state of Scofield's sweat patch providing any entertainment.
A massive problem for the show is the comparative redundancy of Michael Scofield as a character these days. He relied on his body art to provide an intricately-plotted escape route from Fox River prison, and was buoyed by the injustice of his brother's imprisonment. Nowadays, that spark and ingenuity appears to have been lost and he says or does very little of interest. Like the mighty Samson losing his strength once his hair was shorn, it appears that the removal of his upper body tattoo has drained Scofield of his powers too.
Of course, the team dynamic of 'Scofield's Dirty Half Dozen' means that the workload is shared and individual characters are suffering due to some poor writing. Lincoln Burrows can barely do more than grunt or glare, Sucre is a mere shell dreaming of Marie Cruz and Bellick's interesting domestic background with his mother has been totally forgotten about in favour of, well, nothingness. As for new recruit Roland, he just sits there waiting for cards to download. He's probably so bored with the repetitive nature of the Scylla card-retrieval plots that he's on MSN Messenger or Skype all day. It's hard to blame him.
Even the more interesting and reliable supporting characters appear to have been placed in some kind of stasis for the opening episodes of the current season. Alexander Mahone, played brilliantly by William Fichtner, is eminently watchable but has spent far too long brooding in isolation over the murder of his son, just like he was wasted in the third season in cold turkey mode. He needs to return to his skilful, sleuthing old self and dispose of Wyatt - the laughably bumbling Company hitman who is a very poor replacement for the wonderful Agent Kellerman.
How long has T-Bag spent trying to decipher Whistler's bird book? It appears he'll feature in a couple of scenes every episode doing just that, as if reminding viewers that he's still knocking around. T-Bag is a fascinating character for mainstream television - a murderous, raping paedophile who often provides comic relief and a certain sinister appeal. He just needs to be more involved, as does the callous Gretchen. Why keep such a great figure locked up in a cell for so long when the series is crying out for such a sexy, ruthlessly ball-busting figure?
One character who perhaps should have been kept hidden away is Dr. Sara Tancredi. After her Se7en-style beheading last season - a desperate move to revive flagging viewer interest through shock tactics - many cited her absence as the reason for the show's sudden failings. Scofield needs a love interest, a motivation they claimed. In reality, he needed some interesting plots, dialogue and an anti-perspirant.
Sara's return has done neither the characters nor show any favours. Remember the jaw-dropping slaying of the original female lead Veronica Donovan at the beginning of the second season? That was very effective and not signposted at all. Sara's contrived revival - apparently Lincoln didn't look at the disembodied head properly - simply means that any future shock twists will have their impact lessened because we won't trust what we're being shown. How do we know that the bullet that went into Whistler's head didn't go round inside his cranium like a pinball machine and still not kill him? He might have merely 'played dead'.
Prison Break has always been a show that's stretched credulity, and often in fun and engrossing ways, but Tancredi's comeback took the proverbial biscuit. In the grand scheme of things, what purpose has she served since her return apart from allowing Wentworth Miller the chance to emote and pucker up? Well, it allowed the writers to kill off the inconsequential character of Bruce Bennett , the man who tried to keep Sara's existence a secret from Wyatt. Even then, how drawn out was his torture and death for such an inconsequential and peripheral character?
Crucially, the pacing of these story arcs highlights just how poorly Prison Break is using the structure of the episodic season format. A major lack of incident and increasingly repetitive card-cloning plots governed several episodes following the fourth season premiere. The writers appear to be building up to certain event episodes, like the mid-season and season finales, and padding out the episodes in between. This was the case last year, when the explosive end to the third season, featuring the Sona breakout, wasn't sufficient enough to forgive the earlier meandering.
The characters, to a large extent, are reliant on their predicaments to generate interest and have suffered as a result. The most recent instalment of Prison Break, featuring a racetrack heist and Mahone's arrest and escape, did function as a reminder of how good the show can be when the characters have a clear and defined purpose within an episode. It also brought together T-Bag and Gretchen, so let's hope the pair prove a dynamite combination and are given more screen time. Mahone also appears to be closing in on Wyatt, so fingers crossed that the revenge narrative will have a pay-off very soon. Otherwise, given tumbling ratings, the show might not be on air long enough to see a resolution.
407
Good fun.
9/10
Good fun.
- Sucre ze latin lover !!!
- Mahone is the man, really the best character in the show.
- "I'm Alexa..." Sucre, lucky guy
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- "This is private business between men."
- "We ought to leave your ass in the desert."
- And where is Desmond, !?!?
- Mahone is the man, really the best character in the show.
- "I'm Alexa..." Sucre, lucky guy
.- "This is private business between men."
- "We ought to leave your ass in the desert."
- And where is Desmond,
!?!?9/10
pboreham
Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.
Interesting reading - and echo's what most of us have been saying.
jonneymendoza
Legend
- 1 January 2004
- Arsenal
great read. loving this more than heroes though
OPM
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- 2 June 2003
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mahone found the gate hint michael left him. but how did he get into the room where he waited for t-bag and m.? the floor was sealed and the door closed after they ripped the carpet off. it just does not make any sense.
OPM
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- 2 June 2003
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still i have to admit i enjoy it more and more this season, this is a huge step forward from s3. it might be quite a bit unrealistic and even rather strange but it is good action and very well watchable (at least until now)
OPM
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- 2 June 2003
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Placebo
Ԁlɐɔǝqo
Great episode, thoroughly enjoyed it.
If you don't enjoy a show, why continue watching it? Makes no sense to me.......
If you don't enjoy a show, why continue watching it? Makes no sense to me.......
OPM
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- 2 June 2003
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i was hoping this would get better so i kept watching, and it seems like i did the right thing.
