Discussion in 'FIFA' started by P34SEMM, 11 September 2017.

  1. Bond!JamesBond!

    Bond!JamesBond! PS2 PES Greatness

    19 October 2013
    North America
    Chelsea FC
    i see your point, but try PES on full manual, player camera, and then see what you think about game-play.
  2. WEtongelre

    WEtongelre Champions League

    17 February 2006
    Would love to see this game on dynamic camera settings. 2 weeks left!
  3. Bond!JamesBond!

    Bond!JamesBond! PS2 PES Greatness

    19 October 2013
    North America
    Chelsea FC
    i know man, but this is what EA does. Just like Madden football. Buy exclusive licensing then put game development on ice....
  4. Scorpio

    Scorpio Proud member since 2002

    2 November 2002
    Sporting Lokeren
    Really enjoying it. Like the slower pace but still the opportunity to burst past a player like in real life. Defending will take some getting used to, need to stop running all the time.

    Job well done on the demo, just hope they don't screw it up on the full game when they listen to the kids complaining that it's too slow...
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  5. Sami 1999

    Sami 1999 Noob

    28 June 2015
    I tried. And I still preferred Full assissted PES and FiFA gameplay.
  6. Nik

    Nik ARHS na goustaris!

    30 September 2009
    ARHS Thessaloniki
    FIFA 18 demo feels like an old person who recently got his hips and knees replaced with artificial ones and had a bad face lift in the meantime. A person who regrets his life decisions, because he had chosen money over happiness... smth like that.

    p.s. I just can't shake this feeling... "if only they wanted to make a football game and not a FIFA game..." at the end of the day, it is a solid FIFA game.
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  7. P34SEMM

    P34SEMM @iam_emmo

    2 November 2011
    Liverpool FC
    Not the demo for the switch but actual game play here. Looks really nice.
  8. Bravez

    Bravez League 1

    26 June 2005
    I loved FIFA 16 but hated 17, I wasn't going to touch 18s demo because I really enjoy the PES demo but all of these positive responses are making me want to give it a go.

    Hows dribbling this year? It felt like they totally broke it in 17 and things like no touch were buggy and random.
  9. Scutch

    Scutch Futsal Master

    31 October 2006
    Cumbria, UK
    Tottenham Hotspur
    I do love how those slating the game and stating they'll "never buy this" or "it's the worst I've played" still continue to post and slate, hour after hour, day after day. If you don't like it, just exit the thread, toddle off to a PES thread or even a game that you quite like, and comment on how much better it is than the FIFA franchise. What's the point of continuously slating a game in a thread? You get nothing from it, surely? Posting positive comments is beneficial for those wanting to buy a game or finding out new features, but the negative comments are purely your own opinions and when you weight them up in this thread alone, the positive feedback completely outweights the negatives.

    If you don't like the game, why bother coming in the thread to whinge about it? Go out and do something more productive. That's not a diss or being argumentative, it's common sense.
  10. RockyJJP

    RockyJJP FIFA fan, PES lover

    24 April 2006
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    Manchester United
    I fully agree with all you just said.
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  11. ianni

    ianni League 1

    16 September 2015
    Real Madrid
    This is just what happens with PES thread, so it seems it is the common thing.

    I cannot stand this demo, but it is because I am too much used to play PES. So I do not have more to say hahaha
  12. Gunslinger

    Gunslinger Championship

    5 September 2016
    Same here. Enjoyed FIFA 16. Thought it was the best FIFA yet. FIFA 17, not so much. Looking forward to trying this.
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  13. goalgerd

    goalgerd File Maker

    30 July 2006
    dublin, eire
    Ringsend Rovers
    cant wait to go home and play this again later, haven't had that feeling for a football game in at least 5 years
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  14. Scutch

    Scutch Futsal Master

    31 October 2006
    Cumbria, UK
    Tottenham Hotspur
    Having an opinion on the demo/game is different to going over and over the same nuances and issues to make your point. I have no problem with folk voicing their concerns or saying the demo/game is rubbish, but it's when they then come back to say it again, and again, and again. Or saying it's the worst football game they've ever played. Wut? Unless it's the only football game they've played, then no it is not. It's basically said for effect.

    Not a go at you at all. Hell, this is an open forum and folk can post what they like, I'm not in charge. But it does get kinda repetitive seeing the same stuff spouted again and again when in reality the easiest thing to do is just exit the internet completely.
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  15. TroyDeeneyScoredAPenal!

    TroyDeeneyScoredAPenal! League 1

    16 September 2016
    Its too easy on Legendary.... FFS EA.. That plus again even though the speed of the game is slower and things feel Heavier... it still seems too frantic to me.
  16. bsmaff

    bsmaff International

    11 August 2003
    Welwyn Garden
    Exeter City
    So far played 3 games on the demo, and my opinion on it is not great.

    After the 3 games, it seems the game is awfully scripted.
    You don't seem to be in control of it much this year, and the amount of times my players have turned their backs when being passed to and balls just hitting their legs.

    I also hope they change players pace, as I played Man City and Raheem Sterling was like superman, he sprinted pass all my players with ease and created multiple chances.
    So next game I decided to be Man City and indeed Sterling is Superman, you give him the ball and he can run pass everyone.

    The graphics are also terrible on PC, but I think this is down to the demo not having the Hi-Res textures.

    At present it looks like I will be waiting for the 10 hour Origin trial next week before I decide on whether to purchase the game or not.
    As we all know the demo always plays nothing like the full game.
  17. Topaz

    Topaz Programmer/TheAwesomeGem

    21 October 2011
    United States
    Chelsea, Spain
    They need to make it so that the more distance you run, the faster the stamina impacts you. That why, you won't be able to sprint the whole pitch constantly.
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  18. So far I loved getting the ball to Di Maria, Veratti, Dybala (and of course CR7) and all these star players. However, Neymar feels like he's a nobody. No special moves, no particulr distinguished animations for him. He's just a good as Douglas Costa when you're controlling him.
  19. PESV

    PESV League 1

    28 April 2002
    Played the demo, just 2 matches. It did not click for me as of yet. I enjoyed 16 a lot but since frostbite the magic is gone for me. Especially after playing the PES demo i find it really hard to adjust to FIFA again. Cannot really put my finger on it, everything just looks and feels a bit weird. The shooting is top notch though. I will give it another try later, maybe i will change my mind.
  20. Topaz

    Topaz Programmer/TheAwesomeGem

    21 October 2011
    United States
    Chelsea, Spain
    I hope there are hidden stats in the db that we can adjust for that. However, we will have to see how far modding will come in the PC version.
  21. PESV

    PESV League 1

    28 April 2002
    @Chris Davies Are you playing the demo or catching up on some lost sleep? :D Very curious to know what you make of the demo.
  22. *aLe

    *aLe International

    30 August 2005
    Exactly my thoughts.
    I still play FIFA 16 from time to time, yet I uninstalled FIFA 17 long ago. It never really did look "right" to me.

    The same applies to this demo: the first couple of matches I played left me pretty satisfied, but with a "meh" feeling that I can't really explain yet. I feel that something is wrong with this demo, and I can't explain what or why.

    The PES 2018 demo did the same to me, too. The only difference is that the PES demo had me amazed at the beginning, then the "meh" feeling started to slowly emerge after several matches. In this FIFA demo, the "meh" feeling popped up straight away.
    I like it, all in all, but there's something that's not right and I cannot put my finger on it either.

    It's an infuriating situation really, because I don0t know what to do to eradicate that "something's odd" feeling. If I could see clearly what annoys me, I would try and do something to circumvent/mitigate it... But now I (still) can't.
  23. I played about 10 matches yesterday night. Not enough, but it was very late and had to get up early for work today.
    All I can say is that FIFA 18 (the demo, anyways) reminds me a lot of FIFA 16 which is my favourite FIFA game along with FIFA 13 and 08. The dynamic, the pace, the dribbling, the variety when attacking, the many possible outcomes of similar situations, that sensation of "anything can happen".

    I was sure I would dislike FIFA 18 so much, when watching videos. But now... I will wait until the full game comes out to see whether they screwed it up (again) or kept the good stuff of this demo in the full game. If they did maintain them, I will buy it as a self-present for Christmast. LOL.
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  24. patzor

    patzor League 1

    11 July 2010
    That "something's odd" feeling for me has been something that probably popped up when they introduced the "360" dribbling along with fifa 10. I really like the demo and the more weight it has, but it's just something that doesn't feel right when making passes when the players legs makes a small a little bit too fast movement sometimes.
  25. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies Chief PESsimist Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    :D Yeah, I was up until 6am putting that PES review video together last night. Living on two hours' sleep, and already planning on recording and uploading some more PES vids tonight for the guys who want to see the difference between Top Player, Superstar and Legend.

    I'd only played a few games on the FIFA demo before Great British Bake Off came on last night and I had to give up my TV privileges, but what I played I really enjoyed. The comparison to FIFA 16 has already been made and that's how I felt, too - though it's still got those damn Frostbitey edges.

    It's really frustrating that "team styles" are so subtle, if they're there (and EA are really quiet about it when questioned, despite releasing marketing content advertising it as a feature). But. I do think they're there and they're just hidden to us users, after that beta video I posted (where Tottenham were given 30s for their custom tactics' pass speed and build up, but then during the game were just DESPERATE to get the ball to the striker ASAP).

    But I don't recognise the gameplay from the beta (though I played the beta on Xbox One, and I'm playing this on the PS4 Pro - and I do wonder if rendering at a bigger resolution would result in the human eye perceiving it to be a different speed, because I think it's really really slow, and yet other people have said it's too fast).

    I've not seen as many Frostbite "quirks" either (weird glitchy dribbling, players kicking through their own standing legs - and I'm sure all of that will still be in there, it just might not crop up as often).

    The AI still seems to always be keeping an eye on the striker in-case they can hit a direct ball to him (and this is teams like Chelsea, not Bolton Wanderers), and I'm not feeling bags of player individualilty, although I am definitely feeling some (Mkhitaryan felt a lot more fun and "free" on the ball to me than Lukaku did, for example).

    Pass accuracy seemed way too high too, but when I think that it's this slow etc. on the default sliders... I can't help but feel like there's real potential there to shape it into something great.

    That's if you can get past it being a modern FIFA game though, with all its trappings (having to get a degree in physics to be able to control your own defenders when using "tactical defending" for example).

    And for God's sake, why is the game almost black and white when playing in some of the stadiums? You press pause and the menus are bright and colourful, then you unpause the game and it's like you're watching highlights of the 1956 FA Cup final!

    TL:dr; absolutely HATED the beta, don't hate this, but why's it in black and white.
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  26. goalgerd

    goalgerd File Maker

    30 July 2006
    dublin, eire
    Ringsend Rovers
    just the fact that theres chelsea and man utd on the demo and im not worried about sourcing kit pngs or paying for some crap option file (or having to take 2 months to make my own) has me excited

    also the presentation is immense
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  27. Topaz

    Topaz Programmer/TheAwesomeGem

    21 October 2011
    United States
    Chelsea, Spain
    You have to disable HDR. It's so horribly implemented.
  28. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies Chief PESsimist Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Meant to say, and I keep repeating to myself that presentation is pointless, but.

    A deflection fell to Mkhitaryan at the edge of the area last night, and I smashed at it, completely mishitting the shot, but the ball stayed in play and flew to the winger.

    There was an ironic cheer (i.e. "waheyyyyyyyy") from the crowd.

    They did that when missing by a wide margin in last year's game, but I don't recall them doing it for mishits.

    They're going into overdrive with the presentation - and I know it doesn't matter. But. You can't help but "wow".
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  29. goalgerd

    goalgerd File Maker

    30 July 2006
    dublin, eire
    Ringsend Rovers

    it does to me when for the last 10 years ive had to make my own , now i can actually sit down and just play the game instead of wasting hours of my life trying to get everything organised, im too old to be messing around
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  30. Redhat

    Redhat Premiership

    16 June 2007
    Manchester United
    I missed a penno and as the ball was approaching the stands, the fans actively ducked for cover to avoid getting hit. I laughed. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

    Every player feels the same? Get Robben on the ball and get back to me. He looks (with his custom animations) and feels like a dream. One of the best players in the demo and it's immediately apparent. In terms of not feeling anything when you score, I can't help you there. I certainly felt something when I scored this late in the match on semi shooting:

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