PES 2019 Discussion Thread (PS4, XB1)

Today i played Pes 2019 Lite Exhibition updated to latest patch and i decided to change from manual passing to Passing Assistance at 1. It is free enough for me and it feels like the game is tested and based on those controls, not on manual.

Anyway Pes 2019 Lite is like an updated demo and it's the only way i will play Pes this year. I'm sorry, but i just couldn't support them after what they have done to Master League removing second leagues. Besides it didn't feel like the big upgrade i was expecting. Hell, i am saying Pes needs a revolution since years and they not only don't do that, but they don't even manage to make a big enough upgrade to justify buying it compared to Pes 2018. It's just tweaks here and there.
 
Ameppe said:
Anyway Pes 2019 Lite is like an updated demo and it's the only way i will play Pes this year. I'm sorry, but i just couldn't support them after what they have done to Master League removing second leagues. Besides it didn't feel like the big upgrade i was expecting. Hell, i am saying Pes needs a revolution since years and they not only don't do that, but they don't even manage to make a big enough upgrade to justify buying it compared to Pes 2018. It's just tweaks here and there.
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Nothing has ever left such a bad after taste like removal of D2's for me. All of other lies and stupid moves from Konami are slowly fading away, but removal of D2's is in the back of my mind constantly.
Its because of that I cant force myself to start ML with Italian or Spanish teams.

However, from the moment Ive seen full matches of Pes19 on youtube, I really liked the gameplay and to me it was very different from arcade Pes18.

But yeah, removal of D2's pissed me off enough to skip Pes20 even if spanish and italian D2's will be back.
Unless there will be some groundbreaking changes.
 
I will still skip Pes 20 even if they reintroduce those second divisions. They really need a big upgrade, even if just to Master League. Next year is the last of the three year plan for Master League and since the first two years we had next to no real improvements i expect a lot of them to be in the third year of the cycle.

But i have the feeling this whole "three year Master League cycle" is just another false promise by Adam Bhatti to justify the ridicolous low amount of improvements during the last few years.

Their focus is now online and Myclub, that's clear to see.
 
PRO_TOO said:
Could not find the time to play tonight. A female visitor joined my CL session and some Glühwein and repetitive attack pattern got me scoring top corner!
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Haha, a man has to set his priorities, right? Tbh I am not so bothered about the scoring. What would be more interesting is how you manage the speedy parts. The first part where the Spurs player knocks the ball ahead and he just overruns him from behind (the COM does this all the time to me, but I haven't been able to do it to him) and of course the part where he simply leaves the guy in the dust.

BTW, when I watched Ajax vs Bayern last night I thought I was watching a typical PES match with Ajax being the computer pressing the shit out of the human player. Very unrealistic ;)
 
Ameppe said:
But i have the feeling this whole "three year Master League cycle" is just another false promise by Adam Bhatti to justify the ridicolous low amount of improvements during the last few years
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If it was some other company id think that maybe they have some new Master League version on the side, that they are upgrading and testing the last three years..
But I dont think that even the biggest optimists would believe that its true..:LOL:
 
Ameppe said:
But i have the feeling this whole "three year Master League cycle" is just another false promise by Adam Bhatti to justify the ridicolous low amount of improvements during the last few years.
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I have the exact same feeling. But praying to the heavens that they keep their promise this one time.

ML is just so. Incredibly. Lackluster. I've started about 5 Master Leagues but none of them kept me playing for more than a season. There's not enough depth to keep you playing or engaged.
 
hitmanuk said:
Desperate move? It's been free for 2 to 3 years the lite version. If anything it may generate more sales if people like it they'll buy the full version
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True, it's to gain more money from Myclub.

Besides, if you look at credits, Seabass is still there supervisioning the game.
 
About the manual finess shooting; It would be nice if R2 manual shot be more intuitive. If you aim to the corner, the ball should curve to the center. If you wanted to hit the corner you should aim outside the goal. Just like in real life.

I hope you guys understand what I mean.
 
Danny Henry said:
About the manual finess shooting; It would be nice if R2 manual shot be more intuitive. If you aim to the corner, the ball should curve to the center. If you wanted to hit the corner you should aim outside the goal. Just like in real life.

I hope you guys understand what I mean.
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I get you. And that's exactly what it should do... to score into the far corner, you should be aiming slightly outside the goal (and this should also be affected by the curve that the particular player can generate). Currently if you aim for the far corner, even with the aiming stick at the corner (not outside the goal), holding R2, the ball goes well wide of your target, but no where near enough curve to come back. Something is broken. Here is a video with Salah, first with full manual, and then with basic shoot.. big difference:
 
Emroth said:
Another few games last night in my ML with Wolves.
Vs Liverpool (1:2)
Vs West Ham (1:1)
Vs Arsenal (0:5) !!!
Vs Fulham (1:0)
Vs Cardiff (2:0)
Vs Tottenham (1:3)

At 11th place, 5 games to go.

Still loosing with teams that should be hard to beat, mostly winning against weaker teams. AI playing various ways, exciting and unpredictable.

If its down to Team Spirit, which I think it is, they seriously need to tweak the impact of this feature. It should only affect your team and mostly if it comes to offense.
It shouldnt make games nearly impossible to win at the early stages when TS is low.
Our TS seems to be affecting COM teams more than us, which should not be the case.

Its fully understandable why a lot of people give up before they get TS up and results start to be fair.
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I have made the same experience!
Cool, to read that from another person, as I´m scared that this might be coincidence.

Also playing premier league...the season juststarted, my TS is around 95.

Played (with Stoke) a match against Westham, which I could win.
PLayed the next one against Liverpool and they smashed me 1:3.

Matches against Arsenal and ManU a couple of days ago, I lost them as well.

Is that flaw (weak teams play too strong, big teams too weak) gone now?
 
I am following officialpes on twitter and i've noticed there's an absolutely huge number of people playing it and waiting for the Pes 2019 update. I'm talking about 1000 comments in a matter of minutes, while every single Pes console news never reached that number so fast.

In mobile Myclub this year the interface and graphics are more and more like console Myclub. They definitely made an effort to make it much more attractive. Considering this i will say that their focus is Myclub and mobile Myclub, Master League and offline are far from their priority.
 
Largely off-topic, but slightly not.

Sony have launched a neat little feature called My PS4 Life that generates a video based on your PSN account, showing you a few things (e.g. your first PS4 game) and the hours you've played games for.

UK: Click here
IT: Click here

There will be other regions, I'm sure.

My "most played" has made me pretty sad, though. Says a lot about the most recent football games...

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Chuny said:
People would complain about AI boost, AI cheating, AI blocking human defenders from moving. All sorts of crap.
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We wouldnt. ;)
If Neymar pulled this one of id be extatic!
Now, he would probably got his leg chopped of with my boot from behind straight after, but id be very happy to see that.
 
Chris Davies said:
Largely off-topic, but slightly not.

Sony have launched a neat little feature called My PS4 Life that generates a video based on your PSN account, showing you a few things (e.g. your first PS4 game) and the hours you've played games for.

UK: Click here
IT: Click here

There will be other regions, I'm sure.

My "most played" has made me pretty sad, though. Says a lot about the most recent football games...

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Well ill be damned.. and I always say that I didnt like pes18...:LOL:
That comes as a surprise. I thought Witcher3 would be on top and its not even in top 3..
Ps. I skipped Pes17.
 
Emroth said:
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Well ill be damned.. and I always say that I didnt like pes18...:LOL:
That comes as a surprise. I thought Witcher3 would be on top and its not even in top 3..
Ps. I skipped Pes17.
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I must be the most damned ever :D .I disliked PES 2018 too :P :P
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And i had also this from Steam!!! 2x damned
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P.S.: I have bought PS4pro on February 2017 and according to video i have 2,008 playing hours in PS4 for all games. It seems that my wife is right, i play too much!! :( :(
 
Ok i have been playing PES19 for a few weeks now and i am 24 games into my Seria A ML with Parma. So here is my review of the game.
I have been playing PES since it was ISS Pro on the SNES . Not a heavy gamer but always bought the next PES when it came out until 2years ago when i gave up with PES16 . I played the other game for a bit and found it was giving me a better more balanced experience than the latest PS3 era Pro Evos.
Now i have moved onto a PS4 eventually this year I was itching to see what the next gen ps4 PES looked like and played like. So i took the plunge and have been giving it a bash.
Initialy i was loving the graphics upgrade from ps3, the game looks lovely . Palyed a wee bit of ML D2 England and had some fun over about 10 matches. Then i decided to start my ML proper in Seria A with Parma.
I play Professional , -1 speed, PA1, Basic shooting
Up until about a 3or4 days ago i was loving it. Especially after the latest 1.03 patch which the AI did start playing a bit more varied and made some little mistakes which cut out a lot of the ping pong passing. The shooting is good but needs tweaked too many shots are too similar and not enough are going high or wide, if they do its maybe just a foot or so wide or high. Theres a good % of shots in football that wildly over or harmlesley wide. Not the case in this Game. Theres also no difference in feel between which player is hitting a shot, its not like you get excited because you have a player on the ball with high shot power so you bang a long range shot in.
The crossing is difficult but i have started to improve and scored a fair amount of headers now, good balance.
The Fouls are just right amount too, sometimes a lot in a game sometime not many, good balance.
Penalties , havent had one yet which is strange considering how many fouls happen in a match, poor balance.
Goalkeepers, can make saves when they want to or when the AI lets them,poor balance.
The AI defensively isnt great i can cut them open too easily , should be harder to create chances. Sometimes you can run at them from Midfield and they just back off. Attacking the AI is quite varied at time and good.
Now the biggest downfall of the game which had me almost putting a Hammer through the TV screen yesterday is the SCRIPTING bollocks. Its a game killer. Dreadful . Made me think about going back to fifa. Is it TS that is causing it or does the game decide right your conceding 3 goals from 3 shots straight away then we will make it even . Litteraly happens in every other game. Its always the same laser guided precision shot into the corner at mid height from average strikers. The annoying thing is you can have a great game after that where everything seems fair and the AI is varied in its attacks and shots and you feel like its a great game . Why the Script. Sometimes it even like your Goalkeeper has been turned off and would be as well not being there. Also your defenders just cant do anything to stop these passes into the box. Wouldnt matter if you signed the best 3 defenders in the world, if the AI decides your losing 3 goals rapid thats it game over.
Therein lies the problem with the game i feel. Lots of players saying no Individuality . Theres no point to Individuality to players , its what the AI decides the script is for the game that Overrides everything, Formations , Great Goalkeeper, Marking, Attack Levels. Wouldnt matter if i played a 5 -4-1 or 3-4-3 you still lose cheap goals no matter. Is there any point in spending £millions on a Goalkeeper that is 84+ rated.
Having no D2s in ML is a blow , cant believe they done that. Couldnt they put in an editable D2 that you can assign to a main league, even a small 12 team league would be better.
Offline. Not my bag but i played 1 match in Divisions which was pretty good tbh. He was Real Madrid and i was Dynamo Moscow , ended 3-0 to Real , but did not feel cheated or scripted. Probably a close to real life difficulty. I might give it more of a try if Master league continues to frustrate me.
 
chickenhawk said:
Is it TS that is causing it or does the game decide right your conceding 3 goals from 3 shots straight away then we will make it even . Litteraly happens in every other game. Its always the same laser guided precision shot into the corner at mid height from average strikers.
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I only ever play League mode and it constantly happens to me, so I don't think it's anything to do with TS.
 
Looks like im just a casual gamer looking at all your times, guys. :LOL:

Ok - serious question now.
Was anybody able to fully understand tactics/mentality/advanced instructions?
I mean - what takes priority? what overwrites what? And what should we focus on?

Let me give you few examples.

- My defensive style is All out Defense + Conservative defending, but my Advanced Instructions are Gegenpress.
That goes against each other.. will my players still push and press or would they be passive?

- My formation is compacted to max, but my instructions are Hug the Touch Line.
Will they stay compacted or will they hug the touchline?

- My instructions are Deep Defensive Line, but im moving Defensive line fully forward...

I know it doesnt make sense to have those instructions together, but I wonder what would be the effects of that. What takes priority?
It a valid question, when you have to react to whats happening on the pitch.
Are there any side effects if you put too many instructions?

Id test it if I didnt have just 5 matches to go in my ML. Im still fighting for survival..:LOL:
Besides - there is a lot of experts here so it might save me some time.
 
Chris Davies said:
Largely off-topic, but slightly not.

Sony have launched a neat little feature called My PS4 Life that generates a video based on your PSN account, showing you a few things (e.g. your first PS4 game) and the hours you've played games for.

UK: Click here
IT: Click here

There will be other regions, I'm sure.

My "most played" has made me pretty sad, though. Says a lot about the most recent football games...
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Imagine if there was an app like that for porn...
We would all be women-less.
 
OMG.... awful PES LEAGUE stream.. again so amateurish work... 5 FPS and 500 kb/s. My head starts hurting just after 1 min of watching...

 
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