I picked up my 17 today (seven seasons in) and I had a great time Played 3 games 1-1 1-1 and 2-0 with my super charged Milan (worst player 79 ovr). Free kicks ,I have two injuries so far. But it feels quite one dimensional at times,AI defenders stealing the ball to easy etc,a lot like it's in 19. Love defending in this game though,always have! If this game only had Pes 18 ball physics/dribbling/loose ball it would have been one of the greatest no doubt. Can't really decide whether to keep my save going or go back to 18. Actually love that I'm having a tough time on it right now. I think I've won CL twice,EL once,a few cup wins (uefa super cup/Italian cup/world club championship) and 5 Serie A titles.