PES 2016 News & Discussion Thread
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DuduBR9
Champions League
- 25 July 2010
Yeah I was lucky... Lol
I played agaisnt Poland many times but never suffured such pression never was so desperate to clear the ball.
I have done some silly mistakes tho. But that was a great game.
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Are you playing manual and which level. . .. Superstar?
ThomasGOAL
Retired Footballer
- 15 March 2003
Lovely saves . . the header off the line wasn't bad either! Just had an incredible match as Italy against Portugal won 2-1 . . mentally drained after it!
DuduBR9
Champions League
- 25 July 2010
FINALLY won EURO 2016 with Germany. Tough path to the final. Ironically, all the teams I knocked out were teams that caused heart break in my previous five attempts lol Best match was vs England. Came back from 2-0 down to win 7-6 on PKs. (Superstar + manual passing)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9tM_gASb4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9tM_gASb4
Well done Walex. .. I play as Italy and got knocked out 2-1 by Albania in the knockout stage after extra time lol. . they deserved it. Zaza and Immobile have great stats but can't hit a barn door between them for some reason. Zaza misses nearly every chance put in front of him. .weird.
Elja
How's it guys?
- 11 October 2015
I like your passing DuduBR9, calm and composed.. I still make many stupid passes on manual 
Let me tell you, I defended like a MAD MAN and was soooooo anti football/parked the bus that Mourinho would have been proud. The AI is SO aggressive when they are behind. Even Spain started knocking long balls towards the end like their lives depended on it. Look at that last clearance by Ozil. Sums up how I played them to secure the win. I wasn't going to lose another European Championship lol
yasujiro
FUMA player
I use this option since last year version. I always select Ramos or Pepe, they are lethal in corner kicks. When I'm losing an important match I select both.
Yeh Yasujiro I've noticed midfielders who sit back in a match can suddenly attack and influence a match . . to be honest I never thought it would make a difference but it certainly does. I thought it was only for defenders attacking when there's a corner or a reckless run from defence.
I reckon anyone moaning about fouls must just hold 'X' and insta-pass the ball, because the AI is butchering me atm.
Im Holland vs Germany, ive not edited anything to say they are rivals or any player stats, its all as the game is from the box (as such).
Anyway, I get stuffed both in scoreline and foul count. 6 fouls, 5 yellows for the Germans including 1 for Neuer who bought me down for a penalty!
Game before that, im England vs Slovakia, 3 fouls and they are down to 10 men after 15 minutes as Sterling is chopped on the wing twice.
How can anyone not draw a foul in this game, I just dont know!
This is on Professional, 10 minutes, all manual controls.
Im Holland vs Germany, ive not edited anything to say they are rivals or any player stats, its all as the game is from the box (as such).
Anyway, I get stuffed both in scoreline and foul count. 6 fouls, 5 yellows for the Germans including 1 for Neuer who bought me down for a penalty!
Game before that, im England vs Slovakia, 3 fouls and they are down to 10 men after 15 minutes as Sterling is chopped on the wing twice.
How can anyone not draw a foul in this game, I just dont know!
This is on Professional, 10 minutes, all manual controls.
LMAO I give my opinion. I don't force anything down anyone's throat. You can choose to not listen to me, or not read my posts or tweets. I am always open to PES discussions and in the end if we fail to agree on things then we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. I have no agenda.
And so you know, I was asked to be funny--to curse, to keep it light to try and be funny so it wasn't serious talk all the time so yea when I listen back to some of the stuff I've said I go "that sounds dumb but they wanted me to try and be funny so..." But either way I give no fucks if you like me or you don't so lets move on
I finally got a PS4 and decided to buy this after all the positive comments (apart from Chris
) since the latest patch. I only played one game tonight but I can see an improvement in the game although it may be the difference between the PS3 and PS4 version. The problems that Chris mentioned I guess are still there (free kicks, low shots) but it has given me hope for 2017. 
I finally got a PS4 and decided to buy this after all the positive comments (apart from Chris
Geeee, I've nothing against Chris. . . I repect the chap.. he puts up some good posts but you have to admit when there are improvements in the game.
You can't keep saying that it's a placebo when there's a patch which clearly improves the gameplay . . I'm not the only one who has noticed it. The game has faults which is obvious but it's still enjoyable and playable.. . and for the record I'm not a Pes fanboy. . It's documented here in my past posts that I didn't like Pes 2015 and gave it away after a month.
Deco, did you read the article recently where Adam mentioned (and I am summarizing) basically the last 2 years Konami built PES to try and reach as many fans as possible but this is the year hardcore fans will be rewarded?
From what I am hearing there is A LOT of truth to the game moving in a more sim-like direction. I think they looked at FIFA 16 and what EA did wrong where basically FIFA went TOO sim and it frustrated a lot of footy fans. Some were able to find a sweet spot with sliders early on but then patches continued to turn the game back into FIFA 15 which is why all the youtubers started liking it again. Nonetheless, the fact FIFA went first in going truly sim has me feeling that Konami was able to see where EA went wrong and they don't want to make the same mistakes.
Fun, rewarding, deep, gameplay with sim elements was always PES when it was on top. I think Konami themselves would probably admit off the record that PES isn't as deep as it used to be. I've said this before, but to me, PES2015 and PES2016 were good solid football games that should have different titles because they don't "feel" like PES to me. I wouldn't be shocked if internally at Konami guys feel the same and have had discussions about it which has led to this point. But the development team don't make all the decisions about the direction of the game, the investors have an agenda as well and you have to cater to your investors and what the higher-ups want. Hopefully it sounds like everything has been green lighted for a more sim-like game with the idea of really returning the feeling that you are playing PES not a game thats called PES...if that makes sense. Some people on here who are truly enjoying PES 2016 may not like to hear that but I look forward to seeing what happens.
The question I have is can they do it all in one year without bugs,issues, etc. ?
Tall order.
But I am optimistic in the direction especially since everyone knows EA is going to be full on hockey on grass with FIFA 17 given the backlash from their casual base.
Edmundo 22
League 1
- 11 November 2003
I disagree with B-man. I been playing since Iss Pro Evo 2 on PS2.
This is easily the most sim-like /most complex PES to date. Im in no rush for 17' because Im still learning things with 16' and it is overall heads and shoulders above previous PES games for my 2 cents.
Most of the complaints I dont really see, Im getting long-range screamers from the cpu, a good variation of goals from cpu and no two goals are the same in a match.
This is easily the most sim-like /most complex PES to date. Im in no rush for 17' because Im still learning things with 16' and it is overall heads and shoulders above previous PES games for my 2 cents.
Most of the complaints I dont really see, Im getting long-range screamers from the cpu, a good variation of goals from cpu and no two goals are the same in a match.
Good for you. Wish I was experiencing what you are
I hope so b-man, im hanging for a proper footie fix, as lami stated a while back, just browsing thru players to buy during the transfer period back in the old days was a good fix.
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Elja
How's it guys?
- 11 October 2015
I really don't understand what you mean with sim-like game.. Just play on full manuals and you will get that simulation feel.
I also love and play WE9LE (many say the best football sim) it is a great game but there many negative things as well. The passing feels on rail (passing feels better on PES 2016), the referees calls to many fouls which disrupt the flow of the game, the goalies are also overpowered. I think this is not sim, it's just a more difficult game.
For PES 2017, they only need to fix the AI (low shots and defending problems), and team spirit in master league. And maybe add a semi-assisted control for those who can't play on manual controls, because in PES 2016 it's either fully assisted or full manuals.
I did read that article B-man but I take most things Konami say with a pinch of salt.I agree that the last 2 pes editions don't feel or look like former Pes games and I felt that it was morphing into Fifa. I hated Pes 2015 but loved pes 2014. . I thought it was the bravest move they've ever taken but released it unfinished and then went down a road of trying to lure Fifa fans and lovers of Pes 5/6 back.
I'm one of the blasphemers enjoying Pes 2016 which has surprised myself. I am looking forward to Pes 2017 and would prefer a more sim approach but how will they recreate that old Pes feeling? I think people have a romantic view of past games, a bit like losing your virginity. . . it can't be repeated. They should try and make the next game with settings to choose Sim or arcade. .in that way they could cater for most people.
yasujiro
FUMA player
Are you playing on PS4?
yasujiro
FUMA player
I think one of the problems of Konami is to decide which fans they want to please. I think the most sim PES ever was PES 2014 and the game received poor critics by gamers and magazines.
In this list PES 2014 was the 16th best PES.
http://m.ranker.com/list/pro-evolut...m_expid=16418821-180.E297lZgVTzOzR6PB9mn0MQ.5
I understand the change of direction of Konami.
I'd like you to write in your posts in which platform are you playing. I'm playing on PS4 and PS3 and the PS3 plays better gameplay, more PES 6-like. PS3 version don't suffer the same issues of PS4 version (poor CPU AI, lack of variety on CPU goals and shoots...). I hope they change gameplay on PS4 to feel like PS3 version but I think they have different developement teams.
After EURO DLC, PES 2016 on PS3 has the flow and feel of PES 6. And if you want a more sim PES you can play Winning Eleven 2014 Aoki. Both are great games.
Edmundo 22
League 1
- 11 November 2003
PS4.
ThomasGOAL
Retired Footballer
- 15 March 2003
About goalkeeper :
Goalkeeper are not the same after the patch for sure, we do online 2vs2 yesterday during 3 hours, we score goals but never on goalkeepers mistakes, really impressive !
Sorry Elja, I think you make good points
but I disagree with too many fouls disrupting the game. I still play PES5 occasionally (which apparently has more fouls than WE9LE) and it takes about 1 to 5 seconds to get back into the game and put a good ball into the box from a free kick. Although I do agree that it could disrupt the gameplay on newer titles because of all the fancy frilly cut scenes. Also in PES 5 sometimes you count 4 fouls sometimes 8, it's not a big amount in a 10-15 min game.If they added a referee strictness slider or something in 2017 then that would keep a lot of people happy
PS Sorry to bring up the foul discussion I'm very passionate about the lack of fouls since PES5