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PC Responsiveness - Survey

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer - PC, PS2, PSP, Wii, DS' started by defade, 23 September 2013.

  1. defade

    defade League 2

    21 December 2008
    Liverpool
    EDIT: Summary 27/09/2982

    Seems to be that all levels of system specs and both green and red teams having similar issues so I think we can forget the idea of this being limited to one group of system setups. We haven't had much in the way of concrete fixes either but these seem to be best:

    NVIDIA:
    Force vsync off to improve responsiveness. Cap your FPS to 60 (or whatever) using nvidia inspector if you're having heat issues.

    ATI:
    Use RadeonPro to force vsync off and cap fps to 60 (or whatever)

    My RadeonPro settings (worked for me, maybe not for you)
    AF x16, Flip Queue 0, vsync always on (double vsync) without triple buffering, disable aero, force process high prio, enable overdrive and 'always use highest perfomance clocks while gaming'

    Some users reporting that this helps. Can't hurt to try.

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    Original Post
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    Hi all. If you could please post your system specs and also a brief description of any slow downs or responsiveness issues that you're having with PES on the PC. Or if you're one of the lucky ones, brag about how awesome everything works!

    I've heard some anecdotal accounts of the game playing better or worse on different machines and maybe we could figure out the determining factor. Anyone who remembers the INTEL vs AMD situation from a couple of years ago should see the potential value of this.

    I'll go first.

    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.3Ghz
    GPU: HD6870
    Native Resolution: 1980x1080 - tested many others
    Drivers tested: 13.9 WHQL, 13.10 BETA Sept 4th
    RAM: 4GB
    Other info: Tested various ways of forced vsync etc.

    Issues: Button lag, slow downs and stutters in spite of maintaining 60fps. Generally very poor responsiveness.
     
    Last edited: 29 September 2013
  2. ramgamer

    ramgamer La Liga

    22 July 2013
    fc barcelona
    my system is:
    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
    CPU:Intel Core2duo @3.0 ghz
    GPU: Gt 220 1gb ddr3
    Native Resolution: 1440*900 - tested many others now on 1280*800
    Drivers tested: WHQL 326.01
    RAM: 4GB
    playing on 1280*800/medium/even on high i had a constant 60fps during gameplay(no stutter,butter smooth)/fps drops down to 30-35 in entrance scene and replays.i have button lag on player switch,player control feel unresponsive when turning.
     
    Last edited: 23 September 2013
  3. TheTud

    TheTud League 1

    5 January 2009
    CPU: Intel Core I3-3240 @ 3.4 ghz
    RAM: 4 GB DDR 3, 1600 MHZ
    GPU: Radeon 7850 1 Gb DDR5 (overclocked)
    OS: Windows 7 ultimate 64bit
    Resolution: 1920:1080

    Input lag, jerky freekick screen and replays by default. All fixed by turning Vsync on radeonPRO.
     
  4. LoganMac

    LoganMac Non-League

    23 September 2013
    AMD FX-6100 x6
    8gb Ram
    Radeon 6770 1gb

    1680x1050, high, 60fps throughout, 35-45 fps on replays.
    Input lag is game breaking for me, player switching takes up to a second.
     
  5. ramgamer

    ramgamer La Liga

    22 July 2013
    fc barcelona
    please mention how to fix input lag for nvidia users thanks.
     
  6. saad

    saad Conference

    18 July 2005
    CPU: Core i5 2430M
    RAM: 4GB
    GPU: Geforce 525M
    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Resolution: 1366x768 on laptop display, 1920x1080 on TV, High

    Getting 60fps, but with significant input lag.

    I had severe stuttering and responsiveness issues with PES 2013 and 12 too, was able to fix them by disabling Vsync in the game settings and force enabling it with Triple Buffering with D3DOverrider. Now it seems there's no longer an option to turn the game's Vsync off :|
     
  7. Soulja

    Soulja Conference

    25 August 2003
    Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    Ajax
    my system is:
    OS: Windows 8 Pro
    CPU:Intel Core i5 3570K
    GPU: HD7950-DC2T-3GD5 V2
    Native Resolution: 1920 x 1080
    Drivers tested:
    RAM: 8GB

    Playing on 1920*1080 running High. The game seems to run on a solid 60 fps, but just feels slow. No slowdown during cut scenes or anything, but a slight button lag when pressing a button. Sometimes I have a rebound chance for an open goal and my player first wants to control the ball before shooting. It cant be my setup, I just think the game is unresponsive from itself.
     
  8. Hawke

    Hawke ♫ Celery , Celery ♫ Staff

    19 January 2005
    UK
    Chelsea
    OS: Windows 8 64bit
    CPU: i7 3770 @3.4GHz Turbo Boost @3.9GHz
    GPU: GeForce GTX 660 2gb
    RAM: 16 gb ddr3
    PSU: iCute 600w
    Native Resolution: 1920x1080
    Drivers tested: 327.23 WHQL

    Issues...Slight lag in cut scenes/replays...player switching too slow...Tried v-sync on in Nvidia CP / also tried messing with pre-rendered frames & makes no difference ...switched to Assisted player switching in game & feels much better.
     
  9. RockyJJP

    RockyJJP FIFA fan, PES lover

    24 April 2006
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    Manchester United
    If you play on 1 bar assistance or less the response times get worse. The more assisted you play the better the response time becomes.

    The same goes for shooting. The More manual you go the less responsive the players become. This game is disgustingly programmed.
     
  10. Soulja

    Soulja Conference

    25 August 2003
    Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    Ajax
    That might explain a lot, been playing almost everything full manual up till now. Will try to play with more assists, but that is actually not how I prefer the game.
     
  11. defade

    defade League 2

    21 December 2008
    Liverpool
    Raising passing assistance and turning off auto feint has helped me a bit.
     
  12. kiev123

    kiev123 League 2

    9 August 2008
    OS: Windows 7 Professional 64bit
    CPU: Intel E8500 @4.2Ghz
    GPU: ATI HD4870 512MB
    RAM: 4 GB DDR2
    PSU: Coolmaster 500w
    Native Resolution: 1680x1050
    Driver: Most recent drivers for the 4800 series
    Running the game on high with a constant 60fps during gaming
    Issues: Input lag got better for me after installing the patch. Players being unresponsive still exist though. Replays and cutscenes run at 35-45 fps.
     
  13. libertine88

    libertine88 Conference

    23 September 2013
    OS Windows 8 64bit
    CPU: AMD FX 6300
    Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0
    RAM: 8GB corsair vengeance
    GPU: Gigabyte HD 7950 OC
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1Tb
    SSD: OS+ PES, Samsung 840 256 gb

    Controller input lag, seems to be a bit more playable when controller input is set to directinput rather than xinput in pes settings.
     
  14. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    OS: Windows 8 64bit
    CPU: INTEL i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz
    GPU: AMD Radeon HD7950 3gb @ 1125 core, 1500 memory
    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H
    RAM: 8GB DDR3
    Native Resolution: 1980x1080
    Drivers tested: 13.10 BETA
    Other info: Played with standard settings as well as forced v-sync (+ triple buffering) through Radeonpro.

    Issues:

    - Input lag
    - 30fps replays and cutscenes despite 60Hz refresh rate.
    - Slight stutters around the halfway line
    - GPU only using gaming clocks during replays and cutscenes - idle clocks at all other times.

    Bottom line: the game isn't just poorly optimised - it isn't optimised for PC at all!
     
    Last edited: 23 September 2013
  15. TheTud

    TheTud League 1

    5 January 2009
    I got less powerful pc and replays and cutscenes runs at 60 fps. Repleys still look kinda shite in slowmotion tho.
     
  16. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    I think you misunderstand. My frame rate is a rock solid 60fps but cutscenes are clearly being rendered at a lower frame rate. Looks around 30fps to me. It's an optimisation problem.
     
  17. Tunizizou

    Tunizizou Facemaker Staff

    24 April 2010
    Paris
    PSG & Real Madrid
    OS: Windows 7 64bit sp1
    CPU: AMD Phenom II N930 x4 @ 2.0Ghz
    GPU: HD5650 1gb vram
    Native Resolution: 1366x768
    Drivers tested: 13.9 WHQL
    RAM: 6GB


    Issues: sometimes i have some lag during entrance cinematic and replays. It can happens near goal nets too
     
  18. TheTud

    TheTud League 1

    5 January 2009
    Fraps shows 60 fps on every cutscene as well for me and it isn't laggy at all.
     
  19. defade

    defade League 2

    21 December 2008
    Liverpool
    To me this seems to be the issue. FPS monitors are showing 60fps but the game engine, animations or whatever are quite clearly visibly not happening at 60fps. It's most obvious during corners, goal kicks, replays and cutscenes for me.

    I worry that there's some new equivalent of the old frame skipping option at work so that consoles dont blow up when the crowd is visible but we haven't been left any way to change the setting.
     
  20. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    See defade's reply...

    Despite fraps showing 60fps, cutscenes clearly aren't being rendered at 60fps.
     
  21. TheTud

    TheTud League 1

    5 January 2009
    All cutscenes(intros, celebrations etc.) have no any visible lag at all for me as well, perfectly fluid.

    Replays are built to be in slow motion btw and its not optimisation fault why it look crap.
     
    Last edited: 23 September 2013
  22. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    So you are convinced they are running at 60fps?
     
  23. TheTud

    TheTud League 1

    5 January 2009
    Yes, i play games only on pc and can define difference if it runs twice below 60 fps.
     
  24. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    Interesting.

    I'm 100% sure that my cutscenes aren't being rendered at 60fps which is inline with the experience of most other players. I wonder why this isn't the case for you?
     
  25. info0

    info0 Banned

    3 September 2011
    Poland - Lodz
    Santos FC :)
    I can confirm that replays/cut scenes are rendered at 40-45fps.
    Even with very powerful GPU, it stutters (and can prove it screenies too ;))).

    Gampeplay is solid 75 FPS though. Go figure!
     
  26. TheTud

    TheTud League 1

    5 January 2009
    Using radeonPRO and forcing vsync on(no tripple buffering) , that did for me. Just tried to play without radeonPRO and stutters all over the place.
     
  27. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    OS:Windows 7 64bit
    CPU: INTEL Core Duo II @ 2.88GHz
    GPU: Nvidea Geforce 440
    RAM: 4GB
    Native Resolution: 1600x by something I can't remember
    Drivers tested:237. 19th September update.

    Runs fine ingame, now it's rather fast and fluid on 0 speed rather than rather slow before.

    Slowdowns in replays at 37-40 FPS, Goal kicks after a replay and some cutscenes. Replays are shit regardless of lag, they are too slow but the lag makes them worse. I only get this lag after possibly 3/4 games and in certain stadiums like Juventus Stadium. Needs to be fixed urgently, people aren't making nice videos of the goals because the replays are too slow and laggy to show anything.
     
  28. cire754

    cire754 League 2

    18 May 2008
    OS: Windows 7 Professional 64bit
    CPU: Intel i3-2100 @ 3.10 Ghz
    GPU: ATI HD6850 1GB
    RAM: 4 GB DDR3
    PSU: forgot
    Native Resolution: 1920x1080
    Driver: Most recent drivers for the 6800 series
    Running the game on high with sweetFx settings and RadeonPro triple buffering on, haven't checked FPS but no slowdowns for me so far. Player response is actually ok, I've scored a few rebound goals when my striker reacted faster than the AI's defender. In fact I have more issues with Dfensive responsiveness/awareness than attacking lol

    No problem with cutscenes/replays slowdown
     
    Last edited: 24 September 2013
  29. Arsenal4Life

    Arsenal4Life Premiership

    6 February 2006
    The Gunners
    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit sp1
    CPU: Intel Core i3 550 @ 3.2Ghz
    GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5
    Native Resolution: 1680x1050 and 1920x1080
    Drivers tested: 13.9 WHQL
    RAM: 4GB

    Controller input lag is unbearable at times. Game itself runs smooth with no framerate lag. Odd thing is when I switch to vertical wide or any vertical camera(which is my favorite). This is where I have framerate issues. Very choppy and unplayable.
     
  30. ZeroTheHero

    ZeroTheHero Banned

    20 September 2013
    Sweden
    Borussia Dortmund
    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
    CPU: Intel(r) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @2.83ghz
    GPU: GeForce GTX 690
    Native Resolution: 1980x1080 - using 1280x720 in PES atm
    Drivers tested: latest only
    RAM: 16GB

    I notice a little input lag but nothing major. I can live with it.
     

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