The PES/WE 2012 PS3 & 360 Demos thread. I'll start with the WE 2012 talk. Playing the Winning Eleven demo, I've noticed its quicker than the PC demo, so I've changed game speed to -1 and now feels good again. But again I'm using a SD tv. Maybe on an HD tv its different. Also, it has an S rating for teams, which is an extra. For example, Man Utd is AAASAA, compared to Napoli's AAAAAA. Probably S in WE is an A in PES, an A in WE is a B in PES. We'll know for sure when the PES demo's out.