PES 2019 Discussion Thread (PC)

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer' started by its999maggle, 8 August 2018.

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  1. Rodchenko

    Rodchenko League 1

    12 November 2009
    Berlin, Germany
    FC Bayern
    Yes, of course, optional. But next to the pre-match menu I would also put it into the general options. Replays: All, Only Goals, Only Goals and Misses, None. On top, you'd still keep the option to trigger a replay manually (there it would be helpful to have a controller key combo to do that and, of course, better camera settings, which we've been asking for since many years).
     
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  2. Dennis_87

    Dennis_87 Championship

    27 September 2017
    Of course it would be better if it was optional so everyone can put what they like.
    Personally i don't mind the replays.It gives me some seconds to puff my cigarette or just watch a beautiful play again.
    I play online mostly and i always let the celebration also.Not to fuck with my opponent(well for that also if he plays like an ass)but to have some seconds to wipe my controller so my fingers won't slip or just to catch a breath.
    I don't get why some people always skipping everything like if the match finishes one minute earlier it's gonna change something.It gives an even more end to end feeling to the game.
    I agree though with the skipping that it should be done with the x button and not the start.
    It would be more convenient and less annoying.
     
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  3. Rodchenko

    Rodchenko League 1

    12 November 2009
    Berlin, Germany
    FC Bayern
    Don't mind replays of goals and close misses. And beautiful plays are only (automatically) replayed when the ball crosses the goal line. But most importantly I don't need to see a replay of a foul where an AI player stumbles across my outstretched leg in midfield. In some games on TP or SS, and depending on the ref (the baldy is the worst), you have 8-12 such replays and other than pissing you off – because for the most part you actually played the ball in a perfectly legal manner – there is no lesson and nothing to learn from these replays. They are probably simply Konami's way of punishing you for not playing the game 'right' and 'fair' (aka the way Konami wants you to play it).
     
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  4. amartingil

    amartingil Conference

    20 September 2016

    It's crystal clear where starts the fucking shit...:r1::r1::r1:
     
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  5. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies Chief PESsimist Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Woah. That's really powerful - but I have this gut feeling you see sliding in the demo too, right? Maybe less often?
     
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  6. That's exactly how they mess things up!
    And both games have done that for the past 5 years.

    Great video, bulletproof evidence. Although they will look the other way.
     
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  7. amartingil

    amartingil Conference

    20 September 2016
    @Chris Davies yeah, Demo has lower sliding on turns and on animation links. It's compressible.
    This is a straight forward run... cheap trick to speed-up the game.

    @Chuny, I don't understand why Konami use these cheap solutions and ruin one year's work.
    It's not only harmful to the eyes, it also affects the player control and how the animations interact.
     
  8. Short answer: Online.
     
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  9. amartingil

    amartingil Conference

    20 September 2016
    It's clear. Then why not apply this tweaks only in it.
    So difficult is it?:RANT:

    If anyone would like to use my videos to claim Konami. Feel free to do it.:TU:
     
  10. elloco

    elloco League 1

    19 November 2013
    did nobody play manual here ? i think its absolutely embarrassing that the manual Keeper Kickoff is broken still day 1 and after some patches its not fix until now. u still CANT make a short Kickoff if the keeper had the ball in the hand when play FM

    this make me angry :RANT:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. gabe.paul.logan

    gabe.paul.logan Data Collection

    7 January 2007
    Budapest
    Hungary
    and both footplanting is consistent in both version?
     
  12. MafiaMurderBag

    MafiaMurderBag Purist

    3 November 2009
    England
    Liverpool FC
    This just makes me sad. But i don't understand what the hell is wrong with footplanting in the first place? So we remove frames from the animation to give the illusion the game is faster because... Less people will call it slow and shit???
     
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  13. Elanimator

    Elanimator League 1

    5 November 2017
    You're comparing a "NORMAL" dribbling footage from the DEMO...to a "BUGGED" dribbling footage of the FINAL game which isn't a fair comparison.
    As far as I can remember, the demo has far worse foot-planting bugs when it first came out. It was lessen in the final game. Not sure if they tweaked the DEMO at some point.

    I can still remember, some people here(including me) are saying that the DEMO sped-up at some point during those couple weeks before the final game is released.
     
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  14. From what I recall, the demo felt less bugged in terms of moving and 1on1 VS defenders situations. So it will always be DEMO = NORMAL VS FINAL = BUGGY.
     
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  15. Elanimator

    Elanimator League 1

    5 November 2017
    I already forgot most of the bugs I encountered on DEMO but I can't forget the foot-planting bugs because they look so ridiculous... specially, the ones where a player turns/dribble 45 degrees(in alternate/opposite directions successively) while sliding.

    I thought foot-planting bugs was less in the final game as I'm not noticing it much or maybe, I just got used to it.
    or maybe, my impression of the demo are the earlier builds on youtube with lots of foot-planting bugs that I mentioned above.

    Personally, I really like the DEMO compared to final. Mainly because it's slower and has a more organic overall feel when not bugged.
    Just doesn't seem fair to compare a "bugged" footage to a "normal" footage, that's all!

    These are bugs.. so even if they do happen a lot or less often,t hey should totally be eliminated from the game.
     
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  16. amartingil

    amartingil Conference

    20 September 2016
    I've done a second test, much longer. Running pace and normal pace. It's true that demo has more footplanting bugs:LMAO:

    However I don't now why feels more natural. Maybe the slowdown in the footsteps makes it have more sense of weight.
     
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  17. gabe.paul.logan

    gabe.paul.logan Data Collection

    7 January 2007
    Budapest
    Hungary
     
  18. amartingil

    amartingil Conference

    20 September 2016
    We've talked about weight, inertia, animations, pace changes. However, maybe the main point which mutilates all 1on1 variety and overall fluidness that Demo has, is the extremly overpowered :x::x: tackle and defense efectiveness in general in final game:

    In final game:
    1 .Any ball that goes 1 meter around the defender is catched by him in 99.9%.
    2. Any :x::x: tackle makes the attacker stumble, get stuned, or fall down.
    3. Collisions always favor the defender. The attacker is unable to keep the balance in 99.9% of duels.
    4. The lightest hit makes the ball carrier unable to continue.
    5. Ball shielding it's weaker and unefective. The most times the player is unable to keep possesion waiting to a teamate off-the-ball move.

    The point is if Konami made tweaks trying to achieve this issues making the game more simple for online user, Konami thinks they're stupids. :BRICK:
     
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  19. uggy007

    uggy007 Non-League

    2 December 2013
    is there a know issue with the PC version and playing on more than 60 fps?
    I have played it on a laptop with a 60 hz monitor before with no problems. But when I play it on my desktop pc it lags when passing the ball, and after playing for about 30-40 min of an 12 min match it starts to lag like there is no tomorrow.

    I have a pretty decent pc, 2080ti and a 7940x. Playing on a acer predator x34 3440x1440 resolution.

    anyone have any tips for me?
     
  20. 103SpooKy

    103SpooKy Die hard Arjen Robben fan

    27 July 2006
    The Netherlands
    Lots of Co-op fun in myclub for me this year
    Didn't record much this year but had enough for this small goal compilation. Variety is fun in this game
     

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