I’ve got to say…. fair point lol
Yeh we do give the ball away a lot. I have to disagree with you about Casemiro though. He’s been our best player and he’s not giving it away more than anyone else. They’ve all been sh*t at keeping the ball lol Its why I said we shouldn’t play possession football.
We can agree to disagree about Casemiro. Like I said, he doesn’t give the ball away more than the next guy. They’re all guilty of that. I do watch him, he’s my favourite player and has also been our best player so far this season. Not just because he’s our top scorer (which is a shockingly bad thing since he’s out scoring our “goal scorers” which kind of says it all about our forward players though I do hold out a lot of hope in Hojlind) but because his all around game outshines everyone else on the field and his passion and desire to win cannot be questioned.
Well yeah he’s a De Gea Wanabe. What’s hilarious to me is that we specifically bought him for his distribution which in this game was obviously shocking and led to 1. Casemiro being forced to bring the attacker down or it was a certain goal and 2. Not only costing the team… again but now he’s actually detrimental to players around him. Casemiro will now serve a ban purely because of Onanas bad goalkeeping.
with all respect mate, but how do you expect this team not concede minimum 4-5 goals every match? do you really think Garnacho can come back and defend, same applies to Dalot. they are not players that can cover 100 metres in defence in offence. even Evra and Valencia (who are best LB and RB we ever had) can't answer to that objective. but that's not the real problem here, problem is the midfielders you pick to cover them, Mount and Bruno should come to defence but they are very weak while we defend. to play this formation we need three really strong CB's and at least one DM, read Licha, Varane and someone new CB which we miss the chance to buy this summer. Casemiro can fit perfectly in DM, but then the issues come with injuries and our squad depth.
its easy because there is potential that appeared through problems and its the defenders and midfield most of our conceded goals are because forward players and Bruno for example is an offensive midfielders not like mount who can play a Rakitic or a Fred for example role and about Garnecho he will be offensive defender and he will be the Saviour all the time on that side to rebuild the attack or to let Man utd get rid of long pass to goalkeeper and not because he is the main role as that he is the LINKER it means you mark him or not it is useless when he is doing the simple job
just one thing, you mention Rakitic and compare it to Mount. if Mount can play one game like Rakitic belive me he will cost like Bellingham
but it's not and will never be! and how the hell can Garnacho be offensive defender when he doesn't have a clue how to defend? please...
Okay now i will consider it as a talking thing, that Rakitic was for you, if you still look at football as positions it is very bad for a fan of a club because whenever the problem will be you will ask for a change and your maximum limit of thinking is your minimum it means a mercato thing .just one thing, you mention Rakitic and compare it to Mount. if Mount can play one game like Rakitic belive me he will cost like Bellingham
like I said it's easy to make a formation on some site and have the ideas in mind but in reality that is much deeper and doesn't function like that. managers come and go since Sir Alex Ferguson and you think none of them know and have knowledge we have here? if it was that easy all would be different.
Maybe Barca but others will never be interested maybe Everton if it will be PL
I had these problems when i talked about Real Madrid and told them that Benzema is a Van Nistelrooij profile player .
that is what bothering me. we were club with great club culture and respect but when I look back around 10 years ago and sacking of Louis van Gaal, Mourinho and releasing some players on not appropriate way I have bad feeling about where we go.
I really don't want to go this way as you talk becouse I like and respect all utd fans no matter if my opinion is different than theirs. I will not go down to level you speak but when you mention mention world class players they are all unique that's why clubs pay big money to bring them, there is no same profile of players. and yeah football evolved so wingbacks are not that good at defending but their work on defence is vital becouse most of the clubs today play with three players at front.
Okay, don't forget that 2 strikers was not used past 10 years and now many managers are making it back
Also can you think why Ten is not like in Ajax ? is it different players ? is it Ajax yes big team but small league ? is it what ?
that's the thing. Ten Hag had one year already in the club before summer transfer windows opens, he should know that he can't rely on Antony and 90% of the time injured Martial. yeah good old 442 was not used long time but that system was perfected by Fergie and was working like Guardiola's today system. he brings only the players he want. our problem is system/marketing issue. remember when we spoke above about same profile of players, Antony for example is player who work good in Ten Hag's phylosophy but it is not good enough for Premier League. that's why I mentioned that there are not same profile of players, imagine instead of Antony we had Bernardo Silva. I guess we finally understand each other
the needs of the position itself is what make the profile of player let's say a CM with weak defensive skills or a ST that not so fast all of these could kill many talented persons but their focus on other things that let them exist it is not always the coach choice to give them the chance. Any player should know himself this what i'm talking about as profile so it is not the player skills it is like in where he can perform the best and the more the player perform the best he will be opened for other things to do or to improve so automatically it is a level thing so let's put mount at "fast short passing situations with possibility of some long ones" its like he can build so we will see things like that Modric did at Madrid if not it will be the same and he need to work more on accuracy and instinct decisions like turning with ball or moving forward with ball to break the opponent 10 man defending ....that's the thing. Ten Hag had one year already in the club before summer transfer windows opens, he should know that he can't rely on Antony and 90% of the time injured Martial. yeah good old 442 was not used long time but that system was perfected by Fergie and was working like Guardiola's today system. he brings only the players he want. our problem is system/marketing issue. remember when we spoke above about same profile of players, Antony for example is player who work good in Ten Hag's phylosophy but it is not good enough for Premier League. that's why I mentioned that there are not same profile of players, imagine instead of Antony we had Bernardo Silva. I guess we finally understand each other
it is not realistic that's united a little bit sometimes after 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 and that's it i think United has lack of discipline and egoistic acts that get destroyed United the masters of counter attack get destroyed all the time by counter attack.
Playing a back 3 with 2 defenders and a DM out of position is pretty unrealistic to me. Last night against Galatasaray they played a back 4 with the same DM played at left back and got tore apart. They need some defensive solidity otherwise any team would just sit back and smash them on the counter
