Yeah there's definitely a place for 1v1 in a football sense. The FIFA '1v1' is a very specific system I'm referring to when I mention it that was brought in for FIFA 20. It's a reprogramming of off-ball movement and behaviour.
I have played as a goalkeeper at a professional level, there is nothing called 1 vs 1 in football. when one is marking someone, the second defender is doing the space marking, in case the first defender gets eliminated, the second one comes straight after it. In FIFA 23, I literally just kept walking with my player while I was marked by one defender, and when I pass in front of other defenders, they just keep watching. You may not notice it because for you the main purpose is to score goals. I hate scoring goals when the game is designed to let you do it.
Maybe there's a language barrier or something, but what I meant is that we do see in football situations in which the attacker (e.g. a winger) is alone against his marking man. It's not that uncommon.
The similarity of goals scored in 21 isn't as bad as the ones in 19. I can't play against the CPU in 19 because it's the same crap 9/10 and the same goes for 21 in about 7/10 build ups. Against other humans. both games are fun, especially 19. However, insert unpopular opinion, I prefer 20 over both 19 and 21. I think it's the best parts of both games.
nothing can fix the very very limited shooting and scoring variations in PES, it s just not developped enough, in FIFA 19 which im playing now, many goals are new, there are much more goal mouth stumbles and stuff happening in and around the area than PES, which has an automated way to let u score a goal...unfortutenaly unlike the OLD PES
I totally agree with u, but the 1 v 1 in FIFA is different. For example, the pic you sent, if the player gets eliminated he would still chase u back with the support of number 6. But in FIFA, the player eliminated might still be the one chasing u from u back while other keep their distance away.
For me personally, I can't enjoy FIFA 16 without @Anth James' speedhack / friction increase on PC. I have the PS4 version and even on "slow" speed, the animations (and ball speed) are just too fast for me to find it fun. You can feel that the fundamentals are excellent (especially in terms of how "free" the ball is, and how many genuine, unforced outcomes there are), but I just can't get past the speed. That's on v1.0 or v1.7.
I agree. 20, in my opinion, Is way better than 21: less frantic,with a better midfield positioning and i feel better dribbling too.
I managed to get it for relatively cheap not so long ago by buying an account online.
I could’ve brought it when it was around £30 and it doesn’t seem that long ago it was. But I didn’t!
But the gameplay still better PES 2021These are not apples to apples. PES 2021 was created in 2019, while EAFC24 was created in 2023.
Correct, unfortunately.
Lol welcome to the FIFA experience I guess.
So not worth buying FC atm, as it is reduced?
I wouldn't play it if it was free to play and I'm not exaggerating. Obviously that's just my opinion but i have the game and can't get through 5mins of irl play time before turning it off.
same here bought it, played about 3 min, uninstalled and refunded
Well yes, but cause FC 24 sucks on purpouse.But the gameplay still better PES 2021
Modded PES = Better physics and animations, better game pace when playing to humans, maybe.
I agree with you, but getting FIFA/FC to a sweet spot is really difficult, since the game will always have serious animation problems, plus several other things (pass speed, acceleration of players, and mostly, positioning of players) that will difficult FC24 to be a proper sim. I do think that if we got best of each one, we would be a step closer to a good football sim, but sadly, this is not happening soon...So many people won't get near EAFC for the 'skating'/foot planting etc - and I understand. It's definitely a weak point in the game and it's even worse when you watch videos of it as opposed to playing. It can look ugly and horrible. No argument. Until EA prioritise their animation system to be more physics based it is what it is. We can and have improved it, but it can't be eliminated fully- believe me I've tried.
However, my strong feeling is that it shouldn't be the only measuring stick for gameplay quality or realism. I feel people write off FC24 without giving it a proper go purely for that reason alone. PES 2021 seems to get a pass on an incredibly one dimensional, rigid gameplay experience pretty much purely because it has more grounded movement (and amazing graphical mods, patches etc). It gets labelled as the 'best football simulation ever' by some...but I honestly struggle to see why? The CPU plays the same way every match regardless of what you do. The goals, the patterns, the shots, the players.... they're virtually all the same. For me, this is very much outside my scope for 'realism' and even enjoyment.
It's a game I've tried to love and I can go and play it in small doses and enjoy it, but as an offline experience vs the CPU I just can't hang around for long at all as I find I really just can't 'play football'.
To be clear - I love PES, I just don't love PES 2021. Thinking back, PES 2020 was pretty much hated for being this way, yet PES 2021 came around as a season update with maybe minor adjustments in fludity and then it suddenly got labelled the best thing ever.
There's so many things that makes FC24 a much more deep experience once it's modded (I'm talking about mods here, not default - and I know I'm biased because it's my mod, but I've spent so long with the files that I know what the engine is capable of). PES 2021 is talked about in such a great light as a modded product, so I think it's only fair to do so with FC as well.
I genuinely feel like people who judge the game based on a video or a past perception alone are missing out on an experience that they would thoroughly enjoy much more than they think when looking at a video of it. Also, no-one hates 1v1 more than me (actually maybe @papinho81), however credit where it's due to EA as they did listen to various elements in FC24 that may not have made the biggest difference in the world to the default game, however it did massively help what was possible to achieve when modding.
I can safely say that I'm enjoying modded FC24 from a gameplay perspective more than I have any football game since FIFA 16. For me, not even close. The depth, variety, indvidiuality and expression makes it a no-brainer for me.
Those who think I'm just advertising my mod - you're welcome to think that, but I'm only spending the time on fleshing out the mod, because I actually enjoy the game. I've always been critical of areas that needed work. If you don't believe me, go look at comments on FIFA 20 onwards (especially 21 haha).
This is what we've been trying to do with Pure Football right.
