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hatesince97
Serie A
I think the most efficient way to do so is to edit database. Maybe @fifaccitiu.com knows something about that
FIFA 23 Gameplay Lab
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fifaccitiu.com
Conference
- 18 September 2010
DB has team traits to force direct passing and counter attacking, also forcing players to use the long passer trait. Sliders also can influence the way CPU use long passing, giving the correct distnce between the midfield/defence and atacking, making CPU use long pass to build up fastly.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Looks like with those traits and this EBX editing, we should be able to get more long balls.
Code:
"TraitLongPasserMinSpaceMod": 0.7, // Decrease this so that players with long passer trait needs less space to play long balls increasing long pass frequency.
"TraitLongPasserMinRatingMod": 0.8, // Decrease this to increase the frequency for long passer to execute long balls.@Anth James
citizenkidd
League 2
- 28 August 2021
This reminds of my findings in gp_cpuai_cpuaiballhandler_runtime. Thanks to this question I've updated it, based on past testings on my gp mods.
| Name | Details | If - | If + |
| CrossReceiverDistFromPKSpot | |||
| DribbleTTDistToTargetWeight | |||
| FinesseShotProbability | [CPU] probability to take finesse shots | Less finesse shots | More finesse shots |
| GroundPassDecisionDistToTargetMod | [CPU] ground pass decision modifier based on distance to target / teammate | More likely to target nearest teammates, more tiki-taka | More careful passes, less tiki-taka, more creative passes utilizing more teammates in the distance |
| GroundPassDecisionDribbleMinSpace | [CPU] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum dribbling space available | More careless passes, more tiki-taka | More careful and considerate passes, less tiki-taka |
| GroundPassDecisionMinCourseSafety | [CPU] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum course / area safety from defenders | Same as above | Same as above |
| GroundPassDecisionSpaceRatingMod | [CPU] ground pass decision modifier based on rating of spaces / area in the field | Same as above | Same as above |
| OneTimePassProbabilityMod | [CPU] one time pass a.k.a tiki taka probability modifier, however setting this to 0 doesn't eliminate ping pong passes | Less one time passes | More one time passes |
| SlideTackleProbability | [CPU] slide tackle probabilities | Less sliding tackles | More sliding tackles |
| ThroughPassMod | [CPU] through pass modifiers | Less through passes | More through passes |
| TraitDivesTacklesSlideTackleProbability | [CPU Trait] slide tackle probabilities | Less sliding tackles | More sliding tackles |
| TraitEarlyCrosserCrossReceiverDistFromPKSpot | [CPU Trait] | ||
| TraitFinesseShotProbability | [CPU Trait] probabilities to take finessed shots | Less finesse shots | More finesse shots |
| TraitLateCrosserCrossReceiverDistFromPKSpot | [CPU Trait] | ||
| TraitLongPasserMinRatingMod | [CPU Trait] minimum rating modifier (success rate, defenders positioning, etc) | More likely to execute long passes, more long passes | More careful to execute long passes, less long passes |
| TraitLongPasserMinSpaceMod | [CPU Trait] minimum space modifier | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitLongShotTakerMaxShotFreedomWeight | [CPU Trait] maximum freedom to shoot weight | Less likely to take long shots | More likely to take long shots |
| TraitOneTimePasserGroundPassDecisionDistToTargetMod | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on distance to target / teammate | More likely to target nearest teammates, more tiki-taka | More careful passes, less tiki-taka, more creative passes utilizing more teammates in the distance |
| TraitOneTimePasserGroundPassDecisionDribbleMinSpace | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum dribbling space available | More careless passes, more tiki-taka | More careful and considerate passes, less tiki-taka |
| TraitOneTimePasserGroundPassDecisionMinCourseSafety | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum course / area safety from defenders | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitOneTimePasserGroundPassDecisionSpaceRatingMod | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on rating of spaces / area in the field | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitPlayMakerGroundPassDecisionDistToTargetMod | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on distance to target / teammate | More likely to target nearest teammates, more tiki-taka | More careful passes, less tiki-taka, more creative passes utilizing more teammates in the distance |
| TraitPlayMakerGroundPassDecisionDribbleMinSpace | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum dribbling space available | More careless passes, more tiki-taka | More careful and considerate passes, less tiki-taka |
| TraitPlayMakerGroundPassDecisionMinCourseSafety | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum course / area safety from defenders | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitPlayMakerGroundPassDecisionSpaceRatingMod | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on rating of spaces / area in the field | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitPlayMakerPassMod | [CPU Trait] pass frequency modifier | Less likely to pass the ball | More likely to pass the ball |
| TraitSelfishGroundPassDecisionDistToTargetMod | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on distance to target / teammate | More likely to target nearest teammates, more tiki-taka | More careful passes, less tiki-taka, more creative passes utilizing more teammates in the distance |
| TraitSelfishGroundPassDecisionDribbleMinSpace | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum dribbling space available | More careless passes, more tiki-taka | More careful and considerate passes, less tiki-taka |
| TraitSelfishGroundPassDecisionMinCourseSafety | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on minimum course / area safety from defenders | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitSelfishGroundPassDecisionSpaceRatingMod | [CPU Trait] ground pass decision modifier based on rating of spaces / area in the field | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitSpeedDribblerSprintSafetyForStart | [CPU Trait] sprint safety rating | Less careful, more likely to sprint with the ball to beat pass opponents | More careful, less likely to sprint with the ball to beat pass opponents |
| TraitSpeedDribblerSprintSafetyForStop | Same as above | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitSwitchFlankMinRatingMod | [CPU Trait] minimum rating modifier (success rate, defenders positioning, etc) | More likely to execute switch flank passes (across the field to other winger) | Less likely to execute switch flank passes (across the field to other winger) |
| TraitSwitchFlankMinSpaceMod | [CPU Trait] minimum space modifier | Same as above | Same as above |
| TraitThroughPasserThroughPassMod | [CPU Trait] through pass modifiers | Less through passes | More through passes |
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Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Thanks Citizen!
@Anth James this might help you out to bring out individuality between players and teams even more. I wish this also included team traits/tactics too. So we can go crazy with the amount of lob passes if the team tactics was set to long balls. But with fifaccitiu global edits per team and player, this should make every team play much more differently.
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hatesince97
Serie A
Guys, I got two thing that I want to try but don’t know if it’s actually possible.
1. Opening old fifas gameplay files (FIFA 16-17). Don’t know if it’s possible or if someone managed to do it yet.
2. Make male players use female animations and general gameplay logic. I can do that by switching players gender in the DB so male play like female. The problem is that when doing this, male players also have female bodies. Maybe, @fifaccitiu.com you know how to do that and avoid body issues?
1. Opening old fifas gameplay files (FIFA 16-17). Don’t know if it’s possible or if someone managed to do it yet.
2. Make male players use female animations and general gameplay logic. I can do that by switching players gender in the DB so male play like female. The problem is that when doing this, male players also have female bodies. Maybe, @fifaccitiu.com you know how to do that and avoid body issues?
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hatesince97
Serie A
Yep, I searched for tools but only things possible are mostly DB editing and texture import. I think it would be revolutionary but at the same time, when I looked at Fifa 20 gp files, they were almost the same as fifa 23. The only difference is that fifa 23 has more of them. So it may be useless, hard to know without seeing them.
fifaccitiu.com
Conference
- 18 September 2010
1. Fifa 16 has the gameplayattribdb.bin, but still no one has decoded it...
2. I think animations are fully linked to 3d bodies, so that's why you can't do that.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Does anyone know what controls the threshold on how long they should sprint when dribbling? The AI is through on goal but decided to stop sprinting to let me catch up to him. He had enough pace to get on goal but just started dribbling slowly allowing me to easily take the ball. I tried changing both dribblingSafetyMaxSprint and dribblingSafetyMinSprint on gp_ai_dribblingdecision but doesn't seem to do much(maybe i don't know what values i should put there. I tried 0 and 999 to see any difference on the y-axis). Here's a video showcasing the issue:
Anth James
International
- 22 September 2017
Typically tied to acceleration in my experience. If the acceleration min/max are higher you get a more aggressive cpu behaviour. Could be other ways to offset this though possibly.
The way behaviour is so tied into speed is such a frustrating element of the game.
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hatesince97
Serie A
That’s related to acceleration boosts most likely.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Is there no way to change this with cpu_dribbledecision?
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hatesince97
Serie A
I’ll need to look at it cause I don’t remember the actual values names but I definitely saw some more ball holding by the AI when dribbling after editing those space and movement lines.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Do they randomly stop sprinting when they are through on goal?
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hatesince97
Serie A
I don't think so man. I think the best way to avoid that is editing acceleration boosts and also speed table min/max, the one with just two values inside it.
citizenkidd
League 2
- 28 August 2021
There are a few issues I can point out:
- Looks like a problem of sprint and dribbling speed not syncing. In this case player speed seems to be faster than dribbling. But in the video it looks like ballhandler is just jogging instead of sprinting with the ball
- Could also be a problem of CPU dribbling (safety/aggressive) decision making
- I've seen this issue aswell when people use Slow gameplay mode instead of Normal one
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
I am going to play around with the safety/aggressive and the sprint table to see if i can fix the issue. I did lower the min for the sprint speed so I guess that introduced this bug.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
Looks like raising the min for the sprint speed did indeed fix the bug. I guess AI logic for attacking and dribbling is heavily tied on the min speed.
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hatesince97
Serie A
Yep, that’s why faster speed means overall smarter AI.
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
I guess back to using Cheat Engine and Speedhack to slow the game down without ruining AI.
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hatesince97
Serie A
Some people say that the game needs to be played at in game fast speed to actually see the most efficient AI. I’ll maybe experiment with this. Like fast speed but slowed down animations. Don’t know what the result would be tbh
Topaz
Programmer/TheAwesomeGem
I wish there was a global speed modifier for the entire game. That way, everything scales properly to that speed.
mahanddeem
Champions League
- 11 October 2007
I'm lucky to not be good against AI. Playing on professional suits me well personally, I dare to say it's not a bad experience even on vanilla gameplay and default sliders, but on full manual controls.
Gee_Simpson
Conference
- 3 August 2011
I was happily playing on 5/5 sprint speed on default game speed but then it was pointed out to me that the sprint speed slider only affects off the ball, so I had to scrap 5/5 because obviously in theory when on the ball I'm dribbling at 50 speed and the CPU are running at 5 speed. Been on slow 50/50 ever since. I tried 50/50 on default and it was too easy? For me it's tougher on slow and 50/50 vs 50/50 on default 😂.
I think the less responsive feeling in my own defending on slow is probably one of the main reasons? On default it felt like fastest team wins. Leverkusen are rather fast in fairness, but it felt way too easy. Maybe I'll try it out again if slow becomes too easy, but it's been more of a challenge so far 😅 Also in one of the games on default, the opposition (Betis) got a red card midway through the 1st half, but it ended 9-1 from what I remember, Legendary difficulty and FUMA controls.
I think the less responsive feeling in my own defending on slow is probably one of the main reasons? On default it felt like fastest team wins. Leverkusen are rather fast in fairness, but it felt way too easy. Maybe I'll try it out again if slow becomes too easy, but it's been more of a challenge so far 😅 Also in one of the games on default, the opposition (Betis) got a red card midway through the 1st half, but it ended 9-1 from what I remember, Legendary difficulty and FUMA controls.
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Akira99
Non-League
- 28 October 2021
Me
jperezdoblado
Non-League
- 3 November 2021
Hi guys! Could someone tell me where the files are located to change the gameplay of Volta? In this path Fifa --> Attribulator --> Gameplay --> Groups. there is only one Volta file but it does not modify the gameplay at all. Thank you!
smallsided is what you need to change. BUT you must be offline too, otherwise your changes will be overwritten.
