PES 2017 - PC Version Discussion Thread
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lopiop
League 1
- 26 November 2014
Creating a weird hybrid surely takes more resources than porting the ps4 version. My hope is that lighting and texture quality is improved. Hope fully they also add extra Bells and whistles like rain splashing and grass coming out after shots
- Staff
- #273
Is it not the case that they're using the previous engine and just cramming the new season's kits into it* (like EA do with FIFA's "Legacy Editions" on older consoles)? In which case, that takes no effort at all, whereas porting from the current-gen consoles (even if the architecture is the same) involves more work, including testing, which they mustn't think would be paid for by the sales (or rather, more than paid for).
*I could be wrong, I don't follow the PC news...
Sami 1999
Noob
- 28 June 2015
It's because they aren't bothered to optimize the game for cards like GTx 950/60 and other next gen cards. So they sticked with dx9.
elloco
Championship
so here some pics from my edited pes 2016 is captured in 1080p (for compare to PS4) and downsized in paint.
what want to show is that its easy to get a good looking PC game, maybe some dont like the lightning, than chose another sweetfx filter, thats just for me and i like it.
boot textures in pic 1 are much higher than vanilla. also patched, crowd, kits, tufs, stadium, kits, chants, music...
i think the community did a really good job
und without them, pes maybe dead on PC.
so i really not worry about pes2017 on PC and even missed things could be added in the game, for example animated coaches ot the entrance scenes in pes 2015.
what want to show is that its easy to get a good looking PC game, maybe some dont like the lightning, than chose another sweetfx filter, thats just for me and i like it.
boot textures in pic 1 are much higher than vanilla. also patched, crowd, kits, tufs, stadium, kits, chants, music...
i think the community did a really good job
und without them, pes maybe dead on PC. so i really not worry about pes2017 on PC and even missed things could be added in the game, for example animated coaches ot the entrance scenes in pes 2015.
Sami 1999
Noob
- 28 June 2015
-Sweet FX doesn't fix the horrible LOD in Pc version.
-Sweet FX doesn't fix the cloth creases animation which seems to barely change unlike Ps4 version.
-Sweet FX doesn't change the lights position and intensity, doesn't fix the tunnel lights.
-Sweet FX does improve the contrast.
But without good lod and cloth animations, the game looks plastic. Especially compared to Pes 14.
-Sweet FX doesn't fix the cloth creases animation which seems to barely change unlike Ps4 version.
-Sweet FX doesn't change the lights position and intensity, doesn't fix the tunnel lights.
-Sweet FX does improve the contrast.
But without good lod and cloth animations, the game looks plastic. Especially compared to Pes 14.
Pyro
Championship
- 3 November 2011
Link? I highly doubt, we'll probably be missing cutscenes/stadiums/half the edit mode/player heads/something else like always for no reason.
PS4 version isn't THAT much advanced graphically, yes it's better, clearly better, but not by much, they wouldn't have that much work unless they do a massive visual overhaul. They just cba.
elloco
Championship
Did not notice LOD Problems in 2016, that was a big Problem in 2015.
We also had a LOD Tool for 2013 by jenkey.
Dont get me wrong, it's a shame how Konami treat pc user but right now we didnt See any content of pc and Konami did good improvements from 2015 to 2016.
Ive payed ps4 and PC and during gameplay pes2016 with mods Look superior for me...
We also had a LOD Tool for 2013 by jenkey.
Dont get me wrong, it's a shame how Konami treat pc user but right now we didnt See any content of pc and Konami did good improvements from 2015 to 2016.
Ive payed ps4 and PC and during gameplay pes2016 with mods Look superior for me...
Elja
How's it guys?
- 11 October 2015
I don't think LOD is an issue in PES 2016, unless you play on medium or low settings. The boots, balls, and others look bad because of the small texture size on pc, with mods it is all good. The most clear difference between pc and ps4 is the lightings and other aesthetic graphics like dirty boots, water on the pitch, grass coming off the pitch, water running down face etc.
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lopiop
League 1
- 26 November 2014
not really, between pes 2015 to pes 2016 there were some incremental graphical improvements, but its still looked really bad in pes 2016 due to low quality textures and lighting.
right now, if all goes well, pes 2017 for pc should really aim to look similar to pes 2016 on ps4. now that will be a leap in terms of graphical improvements
zeus0r
Banned
- 11 September 2012
graphics are fine on pc version, gameplay/input lag/animations are the problem.
elloco
Championship
i really dont have any inputlag on PC with
-r290x
-sony Dualshock 4 Controller
-yair patch
-r290x
-sony Dualshock 4 Controller
-yair patch
Panthera1
Championship
- 4 February 2004
Yea until you see it on the ps4. Might not be massive but enough. But for me still an enjoyable and looking forward to 17. Just hope it has more animation's, better 3d grass in all views, better crowd and lighting and less of the known issues from 16, low shots, shit keepers and refs
Paynekiller
Premiership
- 14 June 2015
Unmodded, PES 0n PC looks pretty unremarkable even for a Dx9 game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq3yTw_EWvg
At the very end at minute 54 or something.
On the PC it will have the same content as the PS4 version.
On PS3 you will have less stadiums.
chiefrocka4real
Champions League
Damn...that crowd looks awful in the second and fourth pic up there.
Does it look like that on PS4 either?
Hope it looks better on PES 2017.
Does it look like that on PS4 either?
Hope it looks better on PES 2017.
Sami 1999
Noob
- 28 June 2015
Lods are still low. It affects the animations and disables kit creases animations. So unless it's possible fix that- its still low. Ps4 had better lod but thats not enough either..
And I know about Pes 2013 kitserver and it's lod tool...
Paynekiller
Premiership
- 14 June 2015
Crowds are significantly better on PS4, PC crowds are bad in PES 2016 but were absolutely appalling in 2015.
Anyone remember the bearded lady?
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- Staff
- #289
Aaaaaaaaaaahahaha, oh my God, I've just laughed so loud that it echoed around the office, fuck.Crowds are significantly better on PS4, PC crowds are bad in PES 2016 but we're absolutely appalling in 2015.
Anyone remember the bearded lady?
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Conchita Wurst is a Madridista.
I disagree. How come it can look better if it doesn't even have shadows for posts/crossbar when playing in full daylight? They are there only in replays, but not during the normal gameplay.
I'll give you two examples (taken from PES 2015 but if I recall correctly PES 2016 behaves the same):
PES 2015 ON PC (with modded turf and kits, in a default stadium):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWAv_zj_ZEk#t=2m32s
PES 2015 ON PS4 (unmodded):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEBke4Q3SrI#t=0m30s
See why I get mad to them? This is a thing that they got spot on until PES 2013, then they decided they CBA to fix it on PC since PES 2014 (where this bug appeared for the first time).
I'm afraid it's intentional so the game runs at 60fps on PS3 and Xbox360.See why I get mad to them? This is a thing that they got spot on until PES 2013, then they decided they CBA to fix it on PC since PES 2014 (where this bug appeared for the first time).
This is due to video compression.
Yes, but...
You gave yourself an answer there.
I'd rather have a game looking proper from the "main" view (as you should be able to recognize the players by other means, like body and hair colour) and with less detailed/generic faces in the replay, than the other way round.
So, in my opinion, having the shadows looking organic in the default match view is more important than having spot-on faces which you only see during replays anyway.
Edmundo 22
League 1
- 11 November 2003
On YOUR pc.
Bhatti confirmed 2 years ago gameplay is the same. More users (other than evo-web users) on reddit also report identical gameplay. You can find these links (proof) in the other thread "Is there any GAMEPLAY difference between ps4 and PC version ?".
I agree with you Effenberg, PC version has better graphics with sweetfx and higher resolution (2560x1440), and looks sharper than ps4's blurry 1920x1080. And being able to edit alot more like faces and more save slots made PC version my preferred platform.
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He also stated that PC and PS4 have no line of code in common, for that matter.
We don't know yet where the truth lies unfortunately.
Edmundo 22
League 1
- 11 November 2003
I do, he has confirmed it 2 years ago when asked about this. And users have confirmed it by having both a ps4 and pc and comparing. Those who do not agree, it is their pc / controller and/or configuration. Why ? I dont need to believe anyone, as I tested it myself and my pc is a beast 6700k 4.8ghz 980TI 16Gb 3200Mhz RAM and I am a PC tech. PS4s are all the same, PCs are not.
And not ONE video to examine the claim that there is a difference in gameplay.
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Paynekiller
Premiership
- 14 June 2015
I've been building PC's for over 25 years and a gamer for alot longer but even I know you don't need to be an expert to see the technical differences between the PS4 and the PC version. Hopefully PES 2017 for PC will be closer in terms of gameplay and animations to the PS4 version compared to last year.