Nostalgic moments; what's the best PES / WE ever?

kartoffelauflauf

FIFA Club Championship
13 October 2003
Since I got bored by the actual installment of the PES/WE Series, I tried to remember which of those footie game come to my mind, when I try to remember. In my memory I remembered bycycle kicks, scissor kicks, through passes were effective back then when played in the right moment,, in PES/WE 2010 they are pretty useless in comparison.

So I decided to put in Winning Eleven 7 International. I remember the hype back then. I read those interviews in the magazines and the people told, that everything got better in this game, graphics, gameplay mechanics, more variety in animations, all better than in PES2 / WE6. I recall having a great time with this game scoring many many goals with my favorite Shevchenko :-) Do you remember, back then they still had the EURO & REST OF THE WORLD ALL STARS, two teams, that I've really missed in newer installations of the game.

Then I've tried Winning Eleven 9, so far so good, but somehow, I don'T know how to explain, but some things were not quite right. I remember that I had a spindle box with dozens of disks with several patches from those patching times here on evo-web.Do you remember when Fernando released his translation patches and you had V1 with 50% translated, you patched the iso, burnt it, played it. A couple of days later, V2 and real emblems update, bought new disks, burnt it again! Those were the times I had about 10 different versions with different patches of one WE title ;-)

Anyway, than I tried Winning eleven 8: Liveware Evolution with Sunjun 4.0 patch. I swear, this was the game, that I remembered all the time. I've put it into my PS2, turned it on, played a match Milan vs. Inter, and I felt the magic again. The passes are a dream, they feel crisp, played with the right amount of power (not like PES 2010), shots from the distance feel gigantic when hit right, you can smash headers right into the goal, though passes (hight & low ones) are played just right and your AI mates just know how and when to move and run when you try your counter attack. Don't forget the keepers, no more PES 2010-blumpers, reactions are fine. The best part for me is, that you only have a minimal amount of tricks (doubletab L1/R2, Marseille Roulette, Elastico for a couple of players), so this game feels just pure.

So guys, when you have WE8:LE somewhere, put it in and enjoy.

Don't hesitate and tell your personal thoughts about the footie games released in the past!

Greets
 
Do you think so? I personally find the pace of the game very good. Plus, on PC I always have vsync issues. When I turn it on, the game feels different, a little bit slower, that's why I prefer to play it on PS2
 
It's WE9 North American version for me. Awesome game. Very hard to finish and keep possesion due to taugh AI. Gameplay is by far the best I've played in this series. I'm still playing this with my mates. Only annoying problems in it are the crazy bounces of players at times.

I also think PES2010 for PS2 isn't bad at all. It's a very nice game and very enjoyable. It's up there in terms of gameplay quality.
 
..The best part for me is, that you only have a minimal amount of tricks (doubletab L1/R2, Marseille Roulette, Elastico for a couple of players), so this game feels just pure..

This is what i miss the most, so many fifa-like stupid animations ruin the game for me in newer intallations. I loved winning eleven 4, it was the 1st game of the series i played and GOD it made an impression in me!
i remember scoring a bycycle kick goal with Arellano (mexico) when he was our star player in my first master league ever (i was playing co-op with a cousin, building barcelona).. it was magic!
 
My favorite and the PES game i played the most was PES 2. I wasan't even much of a football nut at all, didn't watch too much of the world cup in the year before that year but i just was on that game all the time and couldn't stop playing master league :)

The best is PES 5 obviously but PES 2 gave me the best memories along with ISS evolution 2
 
Played all series and I prefer pes 2010.

Good game. Not perfect especially the refs eventhough the patches have fixed som issues.
 
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Good times.
 
we9 lek but i gotta say once you get used to it, pes 2010 can be a joy.

Pes6 pure fun but too arcadish, pes3 oh god, for its time it was the game.
 
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Good times.

This game was the real magic, I remember ;-)
Back then they had the great scenario mode, coin toss before kick off (why don't they use it anymore??). Do you remember the crazy cheat which turned the referees into dogs ;-)
 
Very nice vids Alessandro_Vascaíno!

By the way: if someone has some good patches for Winning Eleven 7 International / PES 3 on his harddisk or knows where to find them, please submit!
 
ISS Deluxe (SNES) = Where it all began, with 2v2 games against my mates.

PES2 = My best Master League memories. I always remember beating my rivals Bayern Munich 4-0 away with my great Dortmund side to win Division 1.

PES3 = The start of the new 'engine'. An already addictive game just became more addictive.

PES5 = Near perfection.
 
WE9 was great in that it was hard, but I just used to get too frustrated with the constant fouls. My favourites were always WE8LE and WE10.

Now I'd say that PES2010, PS2 version, is the greatest of them all. It's PES5 + PES6, basically. Like a dream come true, five years too late. And far far better than the PS3 version.
 
Perfect Eleven (SFamicom - aka ISS) started it all and will always hold a special place in my heart, me and my friends played the shit out of it back then, literally.

Jikkyoo Soccer Winning Eleven (Playstation - aka Goal Storm) and J.League Perfect Striker (N64 - aka ISS 64) were mind-blowing and leaps and bounds better than anything else on the market at the time and made me purchase a PS1 and a Nintendo 64 respectively.

The best ever however has got to be a toss-up between Winning Eleven 9: Asia Championship (PS2) and J.League Winning Eleven 2009 Club Championship (PS2) (most likely the latter).
 
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PES5 without a doubt.

PES6 has better refs but too fast gamespeed, bad shooting and much worse defensive engine.

AI in the newer PES versions isn't even comparable... PES5 is easily the most genuine simulation of soccer, ever.
 
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Do you remember the crazy cheat which turned the referees into dogs ;-)

Two up, two down, left right, left right, B and A.
I'll never forget this, those were the days.

Do you remember when you were playing with 2 players on the same team and both players went manual on the GK, then your keeper had mad skills if you both were cortinated, if you went opposite directions was a mess tho.

But the best is PES5/WE9:LE for me.
 
Have to say PES 3 was something special it stands out the most what a great game for its time and PES 2008 on the ps2 was prob the closest simulation of the english premier league the way the AI attacked was really aggressive resulting in end to end games against the computer

have to ask whats the deal with PES 4? its the forgotten PES i cant rem anything about it i own a copy somewhere im sure of it maybe its because it was released between two good versions pes 3 and 5 its been forgotten
 
Without doubt the sublime-

Jikkyou j-league perfect striker2 1999(n64)

Jikkyou j-league perfect striker3 2001(ps2)

Still for me the best football games konami(majorA)have ever made,these games had it all and in a lot of ways are still superior then anything on the market today.

These games gave you total freedom and control and this is why.

YouTube - perfect striker 3 ps2 on ps3 full hdmi with ps3 smoothing

360 degree movement,true analog control,360 degree passing and shooting that you could place and change the tradjectory on,sublime ai and still one of the most intuitive and natural user defined systems of passing and shooting that i only hope pes2011 adopts.

When it comes to pes/we its winning eleven 2008 club championship,next gen pes could learn alot from this game.

YouTube - winning eleven 2008 club championship ps2 running on ps3

All videos where recorded and uploaded onto you tube by me.
 
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