Plan M
Banned
- 27 September 2007
- Manchester United
Do you believe that it was started by "The Big Bang"?
Do you believe that God created the universe?
Do you have your own theories? Can science and religion see eye-to-eye?
Discuss.
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The Big Bang, no question. Next.
Yep, I would be willing to stick my neck out and say religion has (and will) cause more deaths than save lives. If George W ever gets his wish and becomes supreme ruler of the galaxy, I hope his first action is to abolish religion. Treat it like the "fight against terror". Once it's gone, it's gone.
Dara O'Briain Live was on telly the other day.
"If God exists, look at the beauty of a mountain and a sunset, what kind of fuck-up of a day was he having when he came up with us? With piles and arsehair and the appendix... What a great idea, something that does nothing but occasionally explode and kill you."
That and the whole dinosaurs thing seals the deal for me.
Yep, I would be willing to stick my neck out and say religion has (and will) cause more deaths than save lives. If George W ever gets his wish and becomes supreme ruler of the galaxy, I hope his first action is to abolish religion. Treat it like the "fight against terror". Once it's gone, it's gone.
I don't consider religion as anything but having something to believe in. It's basically certain principles, people like to believe in. I am no believer of different religions. I say "I would like to live as a good person, without hurting anyone else intentionally." That's my belief, and hence that's my religion. We will never know what really happened at the start, so you can just choose what you have to believe in, and live live as it comes
You say men kill, but then I say, men made religion.
JB said:If George W ever gets his wish and becomes supreme ruler of the galaxy, I hope his first action is to abolish religion.
I also believe that Jesus Christ walked the Earth and the Bible is more than just a book written by a clever author which is what most athiests believe.
it was made by the entity u believe in
So on which day did he/she/it create christianity? Religion is man made imo, someone started by making a "guide"
I'm not anti religion, however it has passed its sell-by-date. Before governments, police and law there wasnt anything to keep people in check. Religion; fear of god, hell, etc was a great way for the un-enlightend to be kept from doing harm and generally created a safer society. However, now that we have governments, police, laws, etc there really is no need from that perspective.
re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
I hope God isn't reading this.
I guess its how we define religion and faith. From Dictionary.com:
I consider Faith to be what we believe in as individuals, Religion is with more people, structure.
As you say, Christ preached which is the start of Christianity. Meaning he was telling / preaching to others how they should live, which rules they should follow. Its probably unlikely to be as dogmatic as the bible / koran but in essence its still has structure / rules that you should adhere to.
I hope God isn't reading this.
Unfortunately there are more God fearing nutters in the US than most other countries.
What I am more interested in the sheer size of the universe. Think about it. Where does it end? Does it actually end at all? If it does what is on the other side? Fucking scary stuff. I can't quite get my head around it. I think its because in life there are always boundaries. The room you are in, the country you are in etc. Potentially the universe could go on forever in all directions and it is this fact that I am fascinated by.
gomito said:unfortunately that is a ridiculous statement. western europe does not = most countries...
Great thread but its gone off track a bit....
What I am more interested in the sheer size of the universe. Think about it. Where does it end? Does it actually end at all? If it does what is on the other side? Fucking scary stuff. I can't quite get my head around it. I think its because in life there are always boundaries. The room you are in, the country you are in etc. Potentially the universe could go on forever in all directions and it is this fact that I am fascinated by.