Yes it is true. I was confused for a while but now I see clearly. You can mock me but I comfortable with my preference. I don't care if my friends and family disown me, I just want to be happy! Sorry to say guys but this year I a somewhat disappointed with PES09. It is much better than 2008 and the gameplay has improved but it just doesn't feel like it has made enough progression over the years. My feelings are based on the demo so I hope (seriously doubt it) that the proper version is better. My mate got Fifa the other day and asked me to go and rent it from blockbuster (bear in mind I have refused to play fifa since 99 and am/was a DIEHARD pro evo fan since ISS98!!!!!) I got the game purely so I could take the piss out of him for making me pay £6 pound for 'this crap'! Put the game in and had about 3 games online... wow! Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the game play is better than pes09 but I am not saying it isn't either. It is different to pro but it isn't the same as the old fifas. It has borrowed from pro massively and worked on it! So it offers a different style of play it isn't perfect but it is just as enjoyable as 'the way pro was'. Just to distinguish myself from all the other 'Fifa converts', I will summarise my reasons below and whoever wants to, can criticise appropriately: Fifa09 v PES09 Gameplay Massive improvement! Fifa has massively ripped off pro's gameplay mechanics and further developed it. The passing is good, through balls are fantastic! The ball physics have improved and the shooting is thoroughly enjoyable. I would have to say that it still has the slight element of delay between you telling it what to do and it actually doing it but this is minimal and the important thing is you feel in control! Presentation What can I say... EA have always gone all out when it comes to presentation. The intro, the soundtracks, replays, crowds, commentary... the list goes on and I don't think that it needs any clarification. Pro has crappy music, piss poor intro, graphics are an improvement but still unconvincing. And how is it possible to make the champions league look crap! Licences Lets just say, Fifas got a LOT of kits. Pro has a few, oh, and it's got Man U and Liverpool licences aswell! WENB (Adam) - "Oh, great, does that mean we have the rest of the Premier League? Seabass - "No, we have replaced the Premier League with this years new feature, we call it the Master League! And instead of using the leagues local currency we have decided that it is more rational to use our new currency of WE points! Isn't that great!" WENB (Adam) - "...Yeah...? Good job Seabass..." Online My, my, my... online is flawless! No lag, whatsoever! 10 v 10, I was never convinced of its practicality, but it works online and if it is your thing you can do it. Pro is still struggling to do 2 v 2! Online leagues and competitions - thats is all I wanted from pro evo. Decent gameplay and online tournaments but Seabass is struggling to keep the gameplay at a good standard! The thing missing from Fifa is online cups and being able to watch other peoples games, now that would be fantastic! Conclusion Fact of the matter is I think Fifa's gameplay this year is just as good as pro evos. I always said 'if fifa's gameplay was just as good, then I would get fifa'. Why? Because PES/Konami/Seabass have been taking the piss for the past 5 years! 'Tweaking' the gameplay back and fourth like we don't see that they have ran out of ideas! They haven't added anything new (or at least of significance) for a long time! On top of that, I think PES has lost its direction and as a result of not focusing on the real issues, it is starting to go back backwards. PES09's gameplay (Based on demo) is better than last years, but that is easy. This years version leaves a lot to be desired, the gameplay feels very clunky but I am sure that I would get used to it - and this is the thing! Seabass produces all this crap and we say oh well its pro evo, its better than all the rest and we will 'get used to it'. I am no longer blindly following PES09. I am now a fan of football. I say whoever can combine good gameplay with good graphics; online functions and good presentation, gets my money. Failing that I will settle for gameplay and online functionality. Who knows, Fifa may have gotten lucky with its gameplay this year and may mess it up next year. If that is the case, and PES is better next year, then I will get PES.