The PC Building Thread

bsmaff said:
If you still have not bought anything yet then gives you plenty of time to think about which system to get.

I personally would get the 6700K due to the future proofing which are only available with Skylake + when Canonlake comes out you could switch the processor over for an even better CPU..

I would also get the H110i GTX if you really want to go down the water cooling route.. I remember reading reviews a while ago when I bought the H110 and the H100i was no better than a very good Air Cooler.(I don't know how good the h100i gtx is)..

But with the sort of budget your playing with you should have no issue building a very high spec machine - It may even run 4K games.
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Well, yeah, still have time to think about it but already made my mind for most of the things.

Case: CORSAIR GRAPHITE SERIES™ 780T white
MB: ASUS® SABERTOOTH X99 ATX USB 3.1
RAM: 32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz
GPU: 12GB GeForce GTX TITAN X (overkill but will do)
SSD: 240 GB HyperX Savage SSD
HDD: 2 or 3 TB WD Black WD 3003FZEX
Drive: 16x Blu-Ray Writer Drive
Power: Corsair 850W RM Series Modular 80 Plus Gold
OS: Win 10 Professional 64bit

Just not 1000% sure about the CPU, that's why I asked.

So the 6700k (4 core) for you over the 5820k (6 core). What are the future proofs which are only available with Skylake you are talking about? What are program which are working with 6 cores? Isn't it more future proof to get a 6 core because games maybe use 6 cores in the future? Just asking, I have no idea :D

About the H100i GTX, I read that it's a further development and is much better as H100i and on par with the H110i GTX. Well the H110i has bigger radiators and so you will get about 2 degrees better temperatures but that doesn't really matter.

The H110i is not even available via pcspecialist and I'm not sure if it would fit in the case anyway, so that rules out the H110i.
 
bsmaff said:
So the processor is a 2600K, did he say how old the system is?

Has the processor or GPU ever been overclocked? Although most people lie about this.

Apart from that, unless you feel confident about building your own PC from 2nd hand components then it seems a good deal.
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Thanks mate uve been a great help ,as u can see I know little.
Just been offered this one now!again he wants to swap for d phone and ps4

This is a custom PC that I built myself last year, the specs are as follows: CPU - Intel i5-4670k with a seidon 120v closed loop watercooler Case - NZXT Phantom 410 mid tower (Red) GPU - ACX Superclocked GTX 760 x2 SLI Ram - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 - 1600 (Red) x2 PSU - Corsair CSM 750 80+ Gold certified semi modular ATX power supply Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Harddrive - 1TB This is my baby and can run most games on ultra and the recent games on very high setting, Runs very quietly and works like a dream. Will come formatted so no windows unfortunately. Is in very good condition however there is one side panel screw missing but other than that nothing to my knowledge. I also have the cases box so can be packed away nice and safely. This baby costs near on £900 - £1000 to buy all separately. I know the price is steep but this is a very good PC and comes with a 23" IPS AOC Full HD monitor, standard keyboard and a razor Naga 2014 edition mouse.

What one do you think is the better one mate thanks
 
spurs7 said:
Thanks mate uve been a great help ,as u can see I know little.
Just been offered this one now!again he wants to swap for d phone and ps4

This is a custom PC that I built myself last year, the specs are as follows: CPU - Intel i5-4670k with a seidon 120v closed loop watercooler Case - NZXT Phantom 410 mid tower (Red) GPU - ACX Superclocked GTX 760 x2 SLI Ram - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 - 1600 (Red) x2 PSU - Corsair CSM 750 80+ Gold certified semi modular ATX power supply Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Harddrive - 1TB This is my baby and can run most games on ultra and the recent games on very high setting, Runs very quietly and works like a dream. Will come formatted so no windows unfortunately. Is in very good condition however there is one side panel screw missing but other than that nothing to my knowledge. I also have the cases box so can be packed away nice and safely. This baby costs near on £900 - £1000 to buy all separately. I know the price is steep but this is a very good PC and comes with a 23" IPS AOC Full HD monitor, standard keyboard and a razor Naga 2014 edition mouse.

What one do you think is the better one mate thanks
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Both are very similar spec wise, except the original has a 770GTX which means it would perform better in games.
What are the price of both systems?
 
My next PC (I got it next week)

Intel Core i7 6700K
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Red DDR4 2 X 8 Go 2133 MHz CAS15
Corsair Carbide 100R Silent Edition
Samsung Serie 850 EVO - 250 Go
Cooler Master G550M Bronze Modular 550W
Thermalright MACHO 120 Rev.A
Samsung SH-224FB
Windows 10 Home 32/64 Bits - Key USB version

1152 €

What do you think ?

I'm not a PC gamer, it's just for Photoshop and Illustrator, so no need graphic card for the moment (I waiting for HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, 10bpc, HEVC main 10 profil card) later I try to make 3D pictures with software like Blender and maybe 4K video editing.
 
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After reading a lot of forums and reviews I'm still undecided about whether to get a Z170 + i7 6700k or X99 + i7 5820k.

There is so much talk going around and nothing really persuades me get a specific one.

Some are saying X99 is more future-proof and six cores will be very useful for games soon.

Some are saying the Skylake technology and his higher tact are more future-proof and gaming is way better on that CPU.
I mainly want to game in high quality and capture it in high quality while playing. I want to work with Photoshop and Sony Vegas and as fast as possible inside Windows. And in the end a long future.
 
Cesc Fabregas said:
After reading a lot of forums and reviews I'm still undecided about whether to get a Z170 + i7 6700k or X99 + i7 5820k.

There is so much talk going around and nothing really persuades me get a specific one.

Some are saying X99 is more future-proof and six cores will be very useful for games soon.

Some are saying the Skylake technology and his higher tact are more future-proof and gaming is way better on that CPU.
I mainly want to game in high quality and capture it in high quality while playing. I want to work with Photoshop and Sony Vegas and as fast as possible inside Windows. And in the end a long future.
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You will find that there is nothing in it between the two performance wise I have not massively looked in gaming benchmarks but would of though the 6700K would perform better whilst gaming.

The six cores will only benefit someone using mulitple applications at the same time - like running a server - doing complex video or photo editing, hence why desktop machines still normally only have 2/4 cores as there is no real benefit for the average user to have any more.
Apart from the 5820K being a better performer on multicore applications I don't see any other reason to buy a X99.. It is older tech and not upgradable.

The Skylake machine can be upgraded for another 2 years by keeping the same motherboard.
The 6700K\5820K perform very similar, but what happens if a 6-core Skylake comes out or the 7700K Canonlake ends up being a massive performance increase like Sandybridge was - you may regret the X99 board then
 
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So, I think this will be it next year if nothing seriously better comes out in the next couple of months.

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Any idea why my machine boots in this way? It's ever since I changed my motherboard to a Z97 from a Z87-Pro.

Computer is absolutely fine and running well with full speed, but just unsure on this startup procedure?

Spec:
* Intel Core i5 4670K Quad Core Retail CPU (Socket 1150, 3.40GHz, 6MB, Haswell, 84W)
* Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gaming
* Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 7200rpm 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive
* Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5 inch Basic SATA Solid State Drive
* EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX780 Superclocked ACX Cooler 3GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
* 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet Black Low Profile, PC3-12800 (1600)
* Fractal Design Define R4 Arctic White Midi Tower Soundproof Case
* 750W Corsair RM Series 80PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply
* Samsung DVDRW.
* XBox One Controller Wireless Receiver
* Razer Deathadder 2013 Mouse
* Windows 8.1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP1YKVkhiXc
 
Which motherboard do you have?

My Asus Z87 Pro used to do that until the latest BIOS update, I never had an issue with it, as just thought it had something to do with initial post checks.

Only happened from cold boot after the PC had been off for a sustained period of time. (Over 24 hours)
 
bsmaff said:
Which motherboard do you have?

My Asus Z87 Pro used to do that until the latest BIOS update, I never had an issue with it, as just thought it had something to do with initial post checks.

Only happened from cold boot after the PC had been off for a sustained period of time. (Over 24 hours)
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Yup, same mate. The motherboard is this:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus...16)-quad-sli-crossfirex-d-sub-(vga)-dvi-d-hdm

Like you say, seems to be from cold boot. If I switch off then back on again, it's fine. Even then, the machine is spot on even though it boots like this. No power drops etc. Just odd I thought.
 
My motherboard is "MSI 970A SLI Krait EDITION - AM3 + Gaming Board" and it's great, except I have one problem with rebooting, for some reason a lot of the time it doesn't post it just shows 9c in the bottom right corner which is some kind of error code, I'm not certain but I think it might be related to it trying to do a UEFI boot which isn't compatible with my Windows install, if I mash F11 when rebooting 1 time in 3 I'll get to the hard drive selection menu where I can choose my HDD and it boots fine, of course I have that hard drive chosen as the first and only boot option but when I mash F11 the menu comes up with three options:

1: UEFI boot with this choice selected (even though I don't have a UEFI booting source).
2: My primary SSD that has my OS install on it
3: Enter Setup

I press 2 or select it and my PC then boots fine, not a big deal as I don't boot a lot just a pain.
 
Do you have any USB devices plugged into the system?

A 9C error apparently means the system is trying to boot from a USB device, so do you have a HUB plugged in somewhere?
 
Ahoy Lads!

This is my first post and I just wanna ask a quick question. Should I buy a new MSI GTX 750ti 2GB or get a much much cheaper 650ti 1GB off my mate for 720p gaming. I'm sure the 650ti is in decent condition, so will there be a massive difference between the two?
 
bsmaff said:
Do you have any USB devices plugged into the system?

A 9C error apparently means the system is trying to boot from a USB device, so do you have a HUB plugged in somewhere?
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Bitter Rivals said:
Could even be a mass storage device such as sd card on a printer for example
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Yeah I read it was supposedly USB related but I have nothing plugged in besides keyboard/mouse/printer, my keyboard is supposedly a USB hub but the two slots on it never worked anyway!
 
The 760 isn't a bad card, you will get to play most games in MED/HIGH settings at 60FPS.

As for price don't know how much they usually go for.
 
Cesc Fabregas said:
So, I think this will be it next year if nothing seriously better comes out in the next couple of months.

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Nice build, but the titan x is a total waste of money, save a few hundred Euro's and just get 980ti they out perform a titan X anyway.

Also 32GB is a waste unless you are video editing.
 
footyfan said:
Nice build, but the titan x is a total waste of money, save a few hundred Euro's and just get 980ti they out perform a titan X anyway.

Also 32GB is a waste unless you are video editing.
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I know about the Titan X but I don't need or want to save the money. Both cards are almost the same, Titan has a little bit better FPS in games and the 12 GB GPU RAM are tempting me too much.

About the 32 GB RAM, yes I plan to do a lot of video editing in the future and the cost difference between 16 GB and 32 GB is not that much.
 
actually the Titan x doesn't out perform the 980ti, for example the gigabyte G1 gaming card creams all over the titan X, due to its higher GPU boost.

Also the 12GB makes no difference in gaming as the GPU is bottlenecked by the time its using more than 6GB....the Titan x is the most pointless card ever made.

If you going to do video editing, you're aswell getting a socket 2011 CPU (5930k), and take advantage of the extra cores and the ability to go upto 128gb of RAM.
 
footyfan said:
actually the Titan x doesn't out perform the 980ti, for example the gigabyte G1 gaming card creams all over the titan X, due to its higher GPU boost.

Also the 12GB makes no difference in gaming as the GPU is bottlenecked by the time its using more than 6GB....the Titan x is the most pointless card ever made.

If you going to do video editing, you're aswell getting a socket 2011 CPU (5930k), and take advantage of the extra cores and the ability to go upto 128gb of RAM.
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The 5930K is also a £500 CPU..

But I do completely agree with the TITAN X it really is a very stupid pointless card.

The other problem is the machine is being built by PC Specialist so he is restricted by the components which can be used in the machine.
 
I will think again about it :D

Any decent 4k monitor with GSync and 144Hz out which I can get instead for that money? :D

It seems that all of them are only 60 Hz. So does it more make more sense to get a 1440p Monitor with Gsync and 144Hz?

I would love to have a dual desktop setup with my 1080p monitor.
 
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I'm gonna buy a new graphics card today. I missed out on the 760 i posted earlier, what about the 750 TI?

£80-95 for a Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti Graphics Card (GTX750TI-OC-2GD5)

edit: forgot to ask, anyone selling a graphics card?
 
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