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two english clubs in euro finals

Discussion in 'Football' started by gomito#10, 28 April 2006.

  1. gomito#10

    gomito#10 World Cup Winner

    9 May 2003
    DC, USA
    What gives mauras? here is your quote

    "EPL teams are a bunch of overrated institutions that play spectacularly against eachother but that are 80% marketing and 20% real quality soccer."

    Do you still feel this way? Arsenal and Middlesbourgh(NOT EVEN CLOSE) will not finish top three in the EPL yet there both in euro finals? Where are the italian teams? where are the portugese?

    You dont say that your foot is in your mouth do you?
  2. SPiTFiRE

    SPiTFiRE Eusébio forever

    6 April 2004
    SL Benfica
    Guess Mauras will be frustated again... ahahah :lol:
  3. gomito#10

    gomito#10 World Cup Winner

    9 May 2003
    DC, USA
  4. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Banned

    12 February 2005
    Two English and Spanish clubs in the euro finals!

    North London STAND UP!!!
  5. Stan

    Stan Allez les Lionceaux !!!

    12 September 2002
    Give Portugese, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Lichtenstein,...clubs the same financial wealth as the English and they will also win silverware...

    Manchester United is theworld richest sports club (preceding a couple of American football clubs and one baseball club - source: Ernst & Young). They won the CL only once: that is the anomaly.

    Arsenal is among the 10 most wealthy football clubs and among the twenty most wealthy sports clubs: they never won the CL...they are underachievers...

    Mauras is right...
  6. SPiTFiRE

    SPiTFiRE Eusébio forever

    6 April 2004
    SL Benfica
    In some things I agree with Mauras, but we must see, that English League is better than Portuguese one.
  7. adriancomparet

    adriancomparet Non-League

    23 February 2005
    2 English and 2 Spanish, Sevilla and Barça.
    Supercup Europe: Sevilla - Barça XD
  8. Revan

    Revan out the window

    8 August 2003
    Madeira, Portugal.
    FC Porto
    What a game the boro-steau.
    Oh the Irony, Carlos, portuguese keeper was to blame for two of the goals.
  9. Doping

    Doping Facemaker

    20 September 2004
    Almada, Portugal
    SL Benfica
    ^ Right when Brassard went to check him out, poor guy :/
  10. Zygalski

    Zygalski Ninja Samurai

    2 February 2003
    London, UK
    Why don't they go out and earn it? English clubs aren't stealing the money from anyone (well maybe apart from Chelsea...)
  11. :: JJ ::

    :: JJ :: Guest

    They've won it twice actually.
  12. joostebrood

    joostebrood Premiership

    4 March 2002
    Unfortunately it's a bit hard having a country as big as Holland compared to England, where tv stations have the money to pay ridiculous amounts of cash just to show Sunderland vs Southampton. In other countries there's geographical reasons why players go there. If you're from Brazil it's normal to go to a warm country to play football plus it's easier to learn the language. Then there's (in Holland) the tax thing, even I pay huge amounts of tax per month. A player will not be happy to earn a million but having to give 600.000 back. So your "why don't they go out and earn it" remark is quite ridiculous and shows you might know Ronaldinho, Ronaldo and all those made superstars, but you know fuck all about football besides that. Thank you.
  13. Dermot

    Dermot Banned

    13 August 2002
    New York
    Hmmm, I'm not sure if I agree with your remark there Joost, I'm not saying i disagree, but also at the same time I'm not saying i agree either, so make your own mind up here, you have no need for me to tell you, if daddy told you to jump off the cliff would you hold Mommy's hand? I don't think so, i'm not sure and I'm not saying i know but at the same time it's just a hunch that i have, not thinking so about the doing of the holding of the hand of your mother. Now you've managed to annoy me Joost with all this.
  14. Gedtillo

    Gedtillo Mediocentro defensivo

    13 July 2004
    Well, one of the two finals is over. :)

    Spain 4 - 0 England :)

    Sevilla has destroyed Boro in a magical night!! :D

    Vamos mi Sevillaaaa, vamos campeooooon!!

    Last edited: 10 May 2006
  15. kel

    kel Nur der HSV

    7 May 2003
    Hamburg, Germany
    Hamburger SV
    Congratulations Sevilla FC.
  16. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    Manchester United won the CL only once...back in the 60's it was called ECI. Csaunders was spreaking about current day football...When Man Utd won the ECI the first time, they were not a very rich team (not poor either)...so i consider that one a bigger achievement than tne CL win...

    Zygalski, Joost has answered your question for me...
    Last week there was a EU parliament session about football. Even Karl Heinz Rummenigge admitted that the uneven division of money is not good in the long term for football...
    I've said this often on this forum. Football has becompe predictable. Who will be champions next season???

    England: Chelsea
    Germany: Bayern Munchen
    France: Olympique Lyon
    Italy: Juventus or AC Milan
    Spain: Barcelona (or maybe Real Madrid)
    Portugal: Porto or maybe Benfica

    Who will win the NBA next season: very unpredicatable...much better...
    And yes Zygalski, Joost is right that you don't exactly show much knowledge about football in the broad sense....The fact that English (premiership) clubs are rich is due to the ridiculous high amount of money that television is paying for the matches...but things can change quick...in the 80's snooker was the most televised sport, even in Belgium and Holland more and more people became interested in this typical Brittish sport. I haven't seen a single thread about snooker WC at this forum...As a matter of fact i don't remember seeing any snooker thread at all since i'm a member...

    And don't worry, i would say the same things if Belgian clubs would have the same amount of money...

    PS: and today it would be very easy to talk about Sevilla-Boro but i don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.
  17. Nickybaker

    Nickybaker You want SEVEN?

    15 October 2003
    The one and only Arsenal
    I wouldn't say Boro were destroyed and things could have been completely different if the penalty was given but credit to Sevilla they killed Boro off as they pushed for the equaliser.

    It's a shame England will only be winning one European trophy this year ;)
  18. zoreille2000

    zoreille2000 Non-League

    9 November 2004
    unfortunatly for english people i think that Barca will make the same against Arsenal.... so hope to see a good match :applause:
  19. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    Yes, Wigan will win the Intertoto and that will be it...
  20. Nickybaker

    Nickybaker You want SEVEN?

    15 October 2003
    The one and only Arsenal
    Don't you mean Newcastle? That's next season anyway.

    I think us goons will surprise a few people on Wednesday.
  21. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    I think you will surprise yourself just like Boro yesterday surprised theirselves...

    Look, it may seem that i hate English football, which isn't the case at all...i love English football...but you people tend to over-estimate your football teams enormously...

    I will even support Arsenal in that final, they have a fine young team, have been playing extremely attractive football the last years, they really deserve some silverware.

    But if you read some things that fans are posting on this forum...jesus...like in the thread concerning the 4th place and the extremely unlucky way Spurs lost that well deserved fourth place (and i admit that i like Spurs more than Arsenal)...

    Sometimes as an outsider it's wise not to interfere but sometimes it's quite hard.
  22. beachryan

    beachryan Golden Boot Winner

    4 July 2003
    Only solution is salary caps. Would make the sport SOOO much better. All the major US sports have done it (okay baseball's a bit behind, but football/basketball/hockey) and those leagues are completely unpredictable. It's great, think of the focus on young talents that were cheaper. West Ham/Boro would have a real chance! Problem is that you'd have to introduce them across UEFA for it to work..probably won't happen :(
  23. joostebrood

    joostebrood Premiership

    4 March 2002
    A draft would be cool, but it will never work since Europe is maybe smaller than the US, but US is one country. Easier to form such a set up when you ahve equal rules everywhere.
  24. Stan

    Stan Allez les Lionceaux !!!

    12 September 2002
    The EU could play a role there Joost...
    The good thing is that they are talking about football in the European Parliament...thebad thing is that that Parliament has no decision power...
  25. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    I don't care.

  26. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    I don't understand Classic?????
  27. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    I don't care how easy it is to mention the final, it's a valid point and Boro got shagged. :mrgreen:
  28. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    as will arsenal :)

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