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PES PHOENIX 2013/14 GOALS SAVES AND MISC THREAD

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer - PC, PS2, PSP, Wii, DS' started by goalgerd, 6 January 2014.

  1. goalgerd

    goalgerd File Maker

    30 July 2006
    dublin, eire
    Ringsend Rovers
    Last edited: 6 January 2014
  2. MadbaLL

    MadbaLL Interista per sempre!

    11 February 2008
    "Curva Nord"
    Inter Milan
    you should use stadium pack by craney, that juventus stadium is outdated :). craney put better version in it.
     
  3. goalgerd

    goalgerd File Maker

    30 July 2006
    dublin, eire
    Ringsend Rovers
    I dont care about stadiums i just like having good grass
     
  4. jihado86

    jihado86 Attacking Midfielder

    10 July 2008
    Tunisia
    Real Madrid
  5. MadbaLL

    MadbaLL Interista per sempre!

    11 February 2008
    "Curva Nord"
    Inter Milan
    the grass is also better there :)

    btw, maxamor also made that better version upon maxey's stadium from pes 2013.
     
  6. Apostolos

    Apostolos League 1

    6 December 2012
    Greece
  7. goalgerd

    goalgerd File Maker

    30 July 2006
    dublin, eire
    Ringsend Rovers
  8. Diego_PES6

    Diego_PES6 PES6 FOREVER

    21 July 2013
    Colombia
    A.C Milan - Colombia NT
  9. Apostolos

    Apostolos League 1

    6 December 2012
    Greece
  10. Anjin Miura

    Anjin Miura #420PraiseIt

    29 April 2012
    @Apostolos

    omg that one's the best :D And the music, guess I've heard dubstep remix of it, somewhere.

    ***

    On topic, to kinda bring my skillz back and see what's what in Phoenix I decided to play good ol' International Challenge mode as Poland. I guess that, with some more fleshing out IntChal could be really interesting - afaik it's not present in newer PESes is it?

    I warn you, following text is a long one. If you like some PES stories, just do yourself a favour and read it. Alternatively you can just look up screenshots at the end.

    Or ignore it fully and move on with your life. :BRMM:

    So well, I started as Poland, with Italy, Norway and Scotland in elimination group. Thanks to Ragazzi's early fail in first game against Scotland I could grab first place in group. Norway got slammed twice (3:0, 2:0), Scotland barely got away (1:1, 2:1) and Italy bested me at first since Phoenix goalkeepers suck :(, but in the rematch I took my points back (1:2, 2:1).

    So that's my elimination story. Since the very beginning I had a vision of my team, actually inspired a bit by...Italy. No one plays 3-5-2 nowadays, rite? Well I do, since now. Three CBs, 2x DMF, 2x SMF, AMF, SS and CF. Should've captured screen of my formation to show you :(

    People-wise, well you might know a few of Polish footballers but mostly you probably have no idea, which is understandable. For sure you know Polish Dortmund Trio - and well, I dumped all three of them for good. It's more of a personal rather than game thing. All three of them don't give a crap about playing good in our NT, so why'd I care? Dumped all three, took some other guys (mostly from Legia Warsaw since it's in patch) and apparently it worked great.

    Anyway I went to Mondiale to snatch World Cup for Poland. I rarely played International Challenge, I only recall winning as Mexico once two or three years ago. And so, the drawing begins.

    Belgium, Chile, Saudi Arabia, Poland...ey yo, ey yo yo yo, you kiddin me muthafucka?

    *PRESSES SQUARE TO DRAW GROUPS AGAIN*

    Egypt, Argentina, Portugal, Poland...hell yeah!

    Fixture I: Poland v Egypt (1:0)​


    Damn now that I think of it, it was the hardest game I had in whole tournament! Egyptians actually pressed me quite hard, and I was close to conceeding a few times, luckily a devastating counter-attack brought me victoire in last fifteen minutes - Kucharczyk (one of guys from Polish league, replacement for Lewandowski) finishes it nicely and I have three points!

    Portugal smashed Argentina 4:1 and hell that was crucial for me!

    Fixture II: Poland v Argentina (0:0)​


    I was a bit scared about robot-players with obnoxiously huge stats (Messi, Aguero), but apparently no-names like my main full back Glik (Torino) or DMF and captain, Wawrzyniak (Legia W.) just robbed'em blind. Argentina had two or three shots on my goal overall. I had many, but well, I'm playing after quite a long break and still have problems with shooting (especially that I try to avoid all kind of gimmicky lame tricks). Argentina lucked out a draw and chance to somehow advance further.

    Portugal obviously won against Egypt and was sure to advance further.

    Fixture III: Poland v Portugal (0:1)​


    My main goal in testing 3-5-2 formation was to check its defensive capabilities - and it was doing great as you'll see later. This game wasn't different - I saw CR7 grabbing ball only once, and losing it instantly. However, once their cross went through my defence, Joao Moutinho reached the ball and my GK, Szczęsny (Arsenal) did literally NOTHING. GKs really suck :( On the other hand I had even more chances than earlier and failed horribly, so I guess that's what I get.

    In the end I stayed at 2nd place since Argentina had more goals conceeded than me. And so, with one goal scored and one lost (:D) I advanced to Last 16.

    Last 16: Poland v Italy (0:0, p. 6-5)​


    Again I had crap luck up front, and moreover Italy was doing really good in offensive. Little Poland was to rise above its Italian Master and bloody hell that was most intense game I had. It went down to penalties, Szczęsny stopped Montolivo, Wawrzyniak outplayed Buffon, we are in Quarterfinal!

    Quarterfinal: Poland v Peru (3:0)​


    I wasn't really relieved seeing that there's Peru waiting for me in Last 8. They gotta be good if they advanced so far. Their victim in Last 16 was poor Denmark, they torn it apart, like 3:0 or something.

    But well, Peruvians were able to challenge my might only for 50 minutes or so. Kosecki (Legia W.) finished off two deadly counterattacks in '53 and '59, and in the end Captain Wawrzyniak unleashed the beast living inside him and scored from more or less 30 meters. We are in Final Four, yay!

    Semifinal: Poland v Spain (0:0, penalties...16-15)​


    Oh my lord, Spain...they pressed me super-hard for first ten minutes, and after that they turned into something like League Two team (with all due respect). I was dominating them hard, but still couldn't score because apparently I'm idiot :( Should've won this game like 4:0 at least. But no goal in sight. And extra time. And still no goal. And penalties.

    I remember that so far my record in penalties was 13-12 or something. Here is an absolute cracker: it went for bloody seventeen series. In 11th Casillas missed the goal, but so I did with Szczęsny, and it continued. Busquets failed to score in 17th series, but I didn't, and oh boy we're in final!

    [​IMG]

    Final: Poland v Germany (3:1)

    I really hoped that Germany will advance to final - it would be awesome to face our eternal nemesis and defeat it there.

    But damn, it's not going to be easy, seeing how I struggled with Spa...

    Third minute and it's 1:0 after Lahm's failed pass - Kosecki shoots to empty goal.

    No, no, it's just an accident, they'll come back shor...

    2:0. Rapid counterattack, Kosecki to empty goal again.

    So, that was it. Although Germans tried to chase me until the end of first half (Schurrle scored in '20 and it was 2:1), the second half was entirely mine. It should end 5:1, but ended only 3:1, as yet another Legia guy (Żyro) found himself one on one with Neuer and scored.

    So, that really was it. They could not come back. Poland was truly the Weltmeister :SHOCK:

    [​IMG]

    Here are some screenshots:

    Last 16:

    [​IMG]

    Summary of my games:

    [​IMG]

    I've lost only two goals in whole tournament (Joao Moutinho and Andre Schurrle), but should've been zero, or at least one. Still, my 3-5-2 tactics worked out in the back surprisingly well.

    Top scorer was Miroslav Klose with 6 goals (Kosecki third with 4), and J. Vargas from Peru had most assists (4).

    Now this brings me to an ultimate summary of my feelings about Phoenix 13/14 games. While AI is not able to completely stop me, even if I fully refrain from cheap goals (and I'm happy I succeeded at it), I still win a lot. So maybe Phoenix AI won't stop me from dominating (Master League), but hell it makes it somewhat harder and more rewarding when you win. I guess that, had I went old 4-4-2 in this tournament, it would be well over after Last 16 if not in group phase.

    Except of testing my 3-5-2 I wanted to see how AI would fare against me in Master League, which is most important for me. I am considering recording new Master League run on YouTube (still looking for team and working on technical issues) and I just want to find out whether I won't end up accidentally winning league title and Champions League right after I get there.

    My major complaint still are goalkeepers. I realize we are meant to focus on defense more now, but right now goalkeepers feel more like PES 2009 for me (which I played, well, forced myself to do it) - what could I do to make them stronger? Global increase of keeper skills and/or something else? I would prefer them to be much better, and it's not only about conceeding goals, let me tell you. Sometimes AI is really doing good, and then GK screws it over - but I've seen more of this stuff playing as Japan in league mode.

    Sometimes AI gets closed in its own penalty box too easily, but that might not be fixable. Phoenix people did really great job in that regard nevertheless - sometimes you'll grab easy win (like I did vs Germany here), but it's quite rare now and games are much more demanding and intense. Damn I like dat!

    The only thing that stops me from playing PES6 all day is also the thing that makes me love it - Master League. While I hated PES 09 gameplay to death, it just had bigger leagues and more ML options so I forced myself to play Volendam and L.A Galaxy for 3 seasons both two years ago or so. Now I've got PES 2010 with some Vietnamese patch for 13/14 season, and actually...I have only one complaint about it, the same I have about Phoenix...

    Bloody goalkeepers...:OOOH:
    ***

    If you've made it here, thanks for reading ;) If you enjoyed that, well, more of this stuff (in video form) should arrive there one day.

    (Damn I love these emoticons, they're so bloody random :D)
     
    Last edited: 15 February 2014
  11. Apostolos

    Apostolos League 1

    6 December 2012
    Greece
    I enjoyed reading your whole post but you should better use spoilers, next time. Some people might find it too long to read or feel too bored to scroll down etc. I guess you get my point.

    Were you playing 10-minute matches or 15-matches, in that International Challenge?

    I recommend you to globally adjust the stats of Aggression and GK skills (maybe +3 would be fine).
     
  12. Anjin Miura

    Anjin Miura #420PraiseIt

    29 April 2012
    Spoiler'ed. Should be okay now. ;)

    I always play 10 minute matches, 15 is too long, 5 is too short, 10 is just fine. ;)

    Well, I might do that...other point is that's too late ML-wise, because just few hours ago I recorded first episode of Phoenix Siena ML. Now all it takes is to upload dat bastard...

    ..."320 minutes remaining"...

    ...my upload's crap :SHOCK:
     
  13. Apostolos

    Apostolos League 1

    6 December 2012
    Greece
    Champions League at midday, why not? :BOP:

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Apostolos

    Apostolos League 1

    6 December 2012
    Greece
  15. Apostolos

    Apostolos League 1

    6 December 2012
    Greece
    Lovely italian stadiums :SMUG:

    Juventus:

    [​IMG]

    Milan:

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