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PES 2013 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer' started by AntrAcsA, 18 April 2012.

  1. AntrAcsA

    AntrAcsA Banned

    8 November 2006
    Finally something official
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    and bit of this
    Let's hope, talk and dreams about PES 2013 begin :)
     
  2. shoemaker

    shoemaker Banned

    3 October 2010
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Lets hope PES 2013 shows some MARKED improvement over 2012.... otherwise it will be another PES title I will pass up on.
     
  3. romagnoli

    romagnoli Misses Retri

    7 August 2004
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Keep being asked for log-in details. Is that just happening on phones?
     
  4. h3li0

    h3li0 League 2

    13 August 2008
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Nop, its blocked again. Its happening to everyone. The site was in the air only for a brief period, maybe by mistake from Konami or the guy who administrate the website.
     
  5. AntrAcsA

    AntrAcsA Banned

    8 November 2006
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Is not only you ,now is block for all , but you don't miss nothing special. There was just one video of PES 2012. Let's see on friday what they will show .
     
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  6. P34SEMM

    P34SEMM @iam_emmo

    2 November 2011
    Romford
    Liverpool FC
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    You cant watch until Friday at 11am. Thats what Konami have tweeted.
     
  7. P34SEMM

    P34SEMM @iam_emmo

    2 November 2011
    Romford
    Liverpool FC
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    So, cue 1000s of people hunched over a speeding a fist while viewing the trailers. Getting real excited with every bit of news, updates and videos dropped by Konami.

    But what will happen when we get the product in our hands?

    WENB will big this up due to their involvement and give it another 9/10 only to say a few weeks later OK so maybe its a 6 or 7/10 game.

    I think everyone should remain sceptical. The last couple of PESs have been rubbish. Konami have a lot to improve.
     
  8. ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue

    ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue Banned

    9 October 2010
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    no new engine, nothing to get excited about..
    same old same old..
     
  9. Flaw3d Genius

    Flaw3d Genius Banned

    12 October 2011
    Glasgow
    The Rangers
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Odd they showed off PES 2012 rather than PES 2013
     
  10. Lons

    Lons AMIGA HARDCORE FAN!

    15 December 2007
    Warsaw and Danzig POLAND
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    If KONAMI make changes in important areas Pes 2013 will be good strong game! Let's wait.
     
  11. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    I'm not sure if a new engine is needed. PES2011 was a game i thoroughly liked.
    PES2012 is a massive step backwards, this game is broken. I scarcely play it anymore, this year i prefer FIFA by far.
     
  12. P34SEMM

    P34SEMM @iam_emmo

    2 November 2011
    Romford
    Liverpool FC
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    As someone pointed out PES1 to PES06 had the same engine and we all loved those
     
  13. Flaw3d Genius

    Flaw3d Genius Banned

    12 October 2011
    Glasgow
    The Rangers
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    The engined changed for PES 3 onwards.
     
  14. zeemeister

    zeemeister foxy engine

    8 September 2006
    Cape Town, South Africa
    Albiceleste/Blaugrana
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Wahey and so it begins. Bookmarked for a click everyday and night LOL
     
  15. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    All aboard the Hype Train.

    Destination: October 2012

    Calling at:

    Anticipation
    Hype
    Excitement
    Impatience
    Joy
    Disappointment
    Realisation
    Delusion
    Anger.
     
  16. AntrAcsA

    AntrAcsA Banned

    8 November 2006
  17. Flaw3d Genius

    Flaw3d Genius Banned

    12 October 2011
    Glasgow
    The Rangers
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    I find PES 2012 a massive step forward infact it's the only PES since PES 6 i can play for any length of time.

    If PES 2013 takes the same strides forward as PES 2012 did it's going to be a great game.
     
  18. P34SEMM

    P34SEMM @iam_emmo

    2 November 2011
    Romford
    Liverpool FC
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    I have been playing Fifa this year and as good as it is its not patch on classic PESs.
    By that I mean I dont play more than 2 games of Fifa at once. I dont score goals that make me jump off the chair in excitement. When I score I feel nothing where as PES I feel great.
    This year in FIFA i havent started a manager mode as its nothing compared to PESs Master league (11 & 12 are the exception).
    I dont go to work and think about what players to buy for the ML team. PES normally is all I can think about when its released.
    I dont feel anything towards Fifa.

    So come on Konami - you owe me (us) a game that gives us that classic PES feeling. Dont let me down...........again.
     
  19. henrys hand

    henrys hand Premiership

    2 September 2010
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Fifa 12 is clearly the better game of football, it plays smoother, has way less bugs and offers a satisfactory experience. The animations are worlds better, to use the right stick for pushing the ball forward is nice, the ballphysics are better, the goalkeepers are miles better, the physics...

    So yes as a game Fifa 12 is a class or even more better, but unfortunately it is not a good representation of football. It's missing dynamic and a momentum/inertia-model and the ballcontrol is over-the-top-good for every player and every circumstance so the things that happen in reallife-football don't happen in the game. The AI is also pretty linear and the pressing doesn't work in a way real teams would use pressure...

    These and other football-aspects are better realized in PES 2012. But it looks and feels awful, the players don't have weight to them, you don't feel the presence of players, the ballphysics aren't very good and the bugs, be it for playerswitching or not defending against crosses from the wings or the awful goalkeepers... are infuriating.

    I think the problems stem from the fact that the engine is very limiting and so improvements in certain areas lead to a worsening in other areas... but I'm open to be proven wrong and look forward to PES 2013.

    Maybe Konami can indeed iron out the bugs and give players presence and more individuality and enable manual passing/shooting without having to press L2, maybe better ball-physics are possible within the engine, maybe a better stamina/fatigue-system is possible, maybe it's possible to reduce the rails or to make it possible to leave them without using super-cancel, maybe more competent goalkeepers are in... maybe these changes are possible to make the game look and feel better and be an overall better game-experience.

    And maybe EA wakes up and provides realistic ball-control, more fluid gameplay, an upgrade in AI and an introduction of a momentum/inertia-model... for Fifa 13. Who knows?
     
  20. AntrAcsA

    AntrAcsA Banned

    8 November 2006
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    :TTTH:
    http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....4847.4847.0.6112.1.1.0.0.0.0.999.999.6-1.1.0.
    and this is only one of many FIFA 12 fails series ... FIFA 12 is not better football game... is better video game but is far from football for me !
     
    Last edited: 18 April 2012
  21. P34SEMM

    P34SEMM @iam_emmo

    2 November 2011
    Romford
    Liverpool FC
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    I know this is a pes13 thread so wont go on about Fifa, PES12 or problems the game has but unless they fix keepers, passing and shooting the games dead.

    Now, according to Adam these things have been looked at closely.
    If so then we are getting there. There are also a ton of other things to sort out but lets hope they sort out on-field issues and not fucking menu music or facebook shit.

    The keepers need a complete overhaul. They need to look at Fifas. Simple as. They also need to remember that keepers dont dive for every shot. They cant. So dont make the keeper do something that a realife keeper wouldnt do. Ie - shot going in top left, keeper cant get there so dives with an up and down montion while going for ball with incorrect hand.
    If keeper is beaten he is beaten. Just have him stand there head in hands or something.
     
  22. henrys hand

    henrys hand Premiership

    2 September 2010
  23. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    So which is it then?

    I understand what you're trying to say but surely the game which better represents football is by it's very nature the better football game?
     
  24. tc811

    tc811 Resident Evo-Web Retard

    9 January 2008
    United States
    Arsenal FC
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    He's saying FIFA has an improper representation of critical gameplay elements, like the momentum-inertia model, and as a result it detracts from the footballing experience.

    Also, I quote henry hand's comments on the first touch mechanics and pressing :

    These gameplay elements have a more "realistic" implementation in PES, and it's all part of what gives PES its "soul".

    I've only played FIFA on the PS Vita, but I feel the same way about the game after 4-5 matches. But damn I love the animations and the ball physics on the game. The audio presentation completely puts PES to shame as well.

    great post from henrys hand by the way.
     
    Last edited: 18 April 2012
  25. MadbaLL

    MadbaLL Interista per sempre!

    11 February 2008
    "Curva Nord"
    Inter Milan
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    my only wish is they go back to the roots (pes5, we9le, pes6).
     
  26. Ameppe

    Ameppe SSC Napoli

    23 December 2007
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    not pes6, please
    it was the beginning of the decline
     
  27. curdstar

    curdstar Premiership

    19 September 2006
    PES4 Partick Thistle
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Think it is best to consider what the news about the ''news'' is and how it came about. It was a tweet about the official site with a day and time that came off the back of the site briefly being live before locking up again.

    Some folk were able to view and navigate the site when it was live briefly but beyond a logo there was not an information overload regarding PES2013 the game.
     
  28. AntrAcsA

    AntrAcsA Banned

    8 November 2006
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    Do not know about you but for me PES 2013 site does not look very serious! It's look very cheap and amateur .. I do not want to comment on the previous write like "coming soon .."
    I think a series, BIG series like claims to be the PES, the site had to be far more professional, although it is not ready (day and a half before anounce ) ... I hope the presentation of the game to b much better .. PES community deserves more respect of that cheap " coming soon.. " or amateur background with poor quality .
     
  29. Northzzz

    Northzzz Classified Information

    26 March 2010
    Radlands
    MU
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    I thoroughly hope it's good. PES 2012 definitely didn't do enough to sustain my interest for very long and i think it felt more like a beta than an actual full release title for numerous reasons.

    I really think they need to re-evaluate the online focus. Even though my interest in Fifa is quite minimal i think a huge positive aspect of that game is the way it allows the player to play online with others in a way that they see fit. PES is still very basic in that respect and unfortunately that could be conceived as a merit but in reality it probably isn't.

    If i want to play online at a certain speed, with certain user settings and with people who aren't going to be Barcelona/Real Madrid whores then at current i don't really have the ability to do that. Any progress in that department will be a huge advantage to the game. I don't even consider myself a big online gamer but playing against a real person is always going to be more interesting than playing against the computer especially considering that i do not know anybody in real life who plays PES.
     
  30. ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue

    ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue Banned

    9 October 2010
    Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......

    yes and it was right away a great game, unlike pes2008
    -
    same as gerd here, enjoyed 011 way more
    they need to go back to the roots again, massive boost in player individuality, focus on first touch, differences between player with ball and without
    SLOWER GAME, lol
    and some other things
    like better AI, AI AI AI :D
     
    Last edited: 18 April 2012

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