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Next WE PS3 game

Discussion in 'Winning Eleven' started by Legendary, 28 December 2007.

  1. Legendary

    Legendary Mad Goalkeeper

    24 May 2003
    Bernabeu Stadium, Madrid or Villa Park, Birmingham
    Aston Villa & Real Madrid
    Will there be new Winning Eleven game out in Spring for PS3 in Japan ? I want to know if there is anything out until PES 2009 come out. Just checking as I haven't been in touch with the series for last two months.
     
  2. danii

    danii Non-League

    12 February 2007
    same question here, when is the next version of pes/we coming out? Don't like pes 2008 much.
     
  3. Lami

    Lami Niche Football Staff

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    I prefer the next pes/we don't come anytime soon. Let them take all the time they need to come out with the best.
     
  4. DJ Doc45

    DJ Doc45 Banned

    The thing is Lami they probably wont, there were suggestions the next PROPER PES could be delayed until 2009 (they know they need to overhaul the piece of shite they produced for PES2008) The thing is will Konami make a decent fist of it this time? or will it be the same arcade fest with the same problems and shortfalls that we have spoken about for years?
     
  5. YoungGun_UK

    YoungGun_UK 20 TIMES!

    12 July 2007
    UK
    Manchester United
    I think the problem is Konami didnt now when they needed a change, PES3 was a great game (better than 2), PES4 was slight improvements but overall again a better game , then PES5 was great and was overall better than 4, but thats when for me they really couldnt do much more with the engine etc, yet pes6 was a good game but arguably some would say 5 was better but when they started developing 6 they should have also started a total new engine so in some ways developing 2 games, they should have been looking to the future and they didnt which has cost them, now the pressure is on and they need to deliver...
     
  6. DJ Doc45

    DJ Doc45 Banned

    There is a lot they can do with the game, even more of the smaller things would be nice. Things they leave out year on year. The game engine though needs a HUGE overall... Also them cartoony graphics just dont do it for me either.

    Please give us more directions to control with NOKAMI and make the master league decent!
     
  7. Lami

    Lami Niche Football Staff

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    Best thing, they scrap it all and only keep the elements that lead to pes/we success, and add the next-gen elements to them from graphics to physics etc. Then add a huge editor which includes everything we need and stuff the licenses because this game was never about them. Give us all possible modes for longevity. Make the most out of both bluray and xbox disc capacities. Add way too many slots for teams and players to create to make use of our console HDs. Finally, drop the we/pes title and give it a new next gen name; a fresh start.
     
  8. DJ Doc45

    DJ Doc45 Banned

    That sounds perfect Lami, The thing is will it happen?......

    Being a huge fan of the series (before PES2008) I would love to see it rise again and become the best.
     
  9. Lami

    Lami Niche Football Staff

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    Only Seabass-n-drums knows...
     
  10. Nick Cave

    Nick Cave Wrexham fan for my sins...

    10 July 2004
    Non football league waste land...
    Wrexham AFC
    If they bomb again it will hurt Konami in the pocket, so in a sick way I hope they do a tweak and paste job again.
    It's like supporting England, there comes a point when you want a major arse kicking defeat, or in this case botch job part ii, for the idiots upstairs to wake up and smell the coffee.
     
  11. Rantboy

    Rantboy International

    27 December 2002
    Fluminense FC / Arsenal
    I've said this before, and I'll say it again... Just give them a year!

    Apart from some things they did worse for no aparent reason in PES2008 (hello editing mode?!) the main reason for this failure could be developing for a new platform.
    For the older fans, let's take it back to 2001: remember how they screwed up with WE5 for PS2? It was their first attempt on the new-gen console and it was UNPLAYABLE! Meanwhile the version for PSX was more of the same, considering they had already reached the limit.

    In 2009 they will deliver a much more convincing game, I'd put my money on that!

    As for FIFA, I won't compare because I didnĀ“t play it yet. In fact, I have to confess that I'm still buiding up the courage to touch a FIFA game again :D
     
  12. jaygrim

    jaygrim TheAllSeeingEye

    26 July 2005
    Everywhere.
    Man Utd
    I read that they are gonna miss a year and re-do the whole thing?
     
  13. Lami

    Lami Niche Football Staff

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    I wouldn't mind that at all jay.
     
  14. Nick Cave

    Nick Cave Wrexham fan for my sins...

    10 July 2004
    Non football league waste land...
    Wrexham AFC
    Where was that jaygrim... meaning is it likely or just Magazine column inches filler.
    I would love them to actually put a year or so into the next one, but I'm sure come what may Konami are going to want a seller this year, no matter what the quality..
     
  15. Rantboy

    Rantboy International

    27 December 2002
    Fluminense FC / Arsenal
    So, you believe they would put out something like a half-arsed "PES2008 Final Evolution" around may?
    I wish they wouldn't. In an effort to redeem themselves, they could tarnish the series' reputation once again.
    A year of hard work should be fitting for a great comeback.
     
  16. Nick Cave

    Nick Cave Wrexham fan for my sins...

    10 July 2004
    Non football league waste land...
    Wrexham AFC
    You have to look at it from Konami's point of view, the thing sold... It's all about $'s to them, they don't care about AI or things like that. If the product sells fine, the glitches will have hit home for sure as this will have affected sales and given bad publicity. This will be addressed I'm sure but I can't see Seamonkey saying "we are going to take a year on the next release to get it right and better" and Konami going "OK" no income from PES this year... Don't get me wrong I'd love that to happen :D
     
  17. world`soccer

    world`soccer Banned

    23 April 2006
    In The Heart oF SocceR
    Arsenal
    So many bla bla about PES2008 and konami around here ,, So lets share my point konami must make PES2008 Final evo or something like that to be out in may with a good fix so we will get our hand on improved ver of the game for Euro 2008 coz how we can wait for a hole year with out playing We/Pes this footy season and the next one will start with out enjoy if konami did`nt make a move and am ready to pay $60 if there is a new futures in the game coz PES2008 is a good game but need some missing things and about PES2009 ohh its a bloody story :) and will me wright a hole page ,, but in 2 simple words ,, konami LOOK AT FIFA 08 improvemnt even it is a sh*** game :)
     
  18. Rantboy

    Rantboy International

    27 December 2002
    Fluminense FC / Arsenal
    Me too! But I'm afraid you may be right. Forgot about Euro 2008, and the huge appeal and sales opportunity in that period. EA always rushed their game in such occasions without much concern about the quality of it, so Konami might do just the same. But we all know and they surely know that they ain't ready!

    Konami always release such consistent titles (MGS, Silent Hill...) I was never disappointed with either of them.
    Why can't they keep the standard with WE/PES?
     
  19. matherto

    matherto 12 Times

    13 October 2004
    St. Helens, Merseyside.
    Manchester United
    I wouldn't mind it being called ISS Pro again.
     
  20. Ret KiT

    Ret KiT Premiership

    25 March 2007
    i wonder why they called it International Superstar Soccer
     
  21. DJ Doc45

    DJ Doc45 Banned

    International Superstars are in the game ;) (allbeit in the old days they were called Ronarid and Kleimann!) and its Soccer in some countries... Football in others!
     
  22. Nick Cave

    Nick Cave Wrexham fan for my sins...

    10 July 2004
    Non football league waste land...
    Wrexham AFC
    Who here will just send off for it or even preorder when/if, without waiting for some info or reviews?
     
  23. DJ Doc45

    DJ Doc45 Banned

    Used to do that all the time Nick, wont be doing that anymore.
     
  24. Rantboy

    Rantboy International

    27 December 2002
    Fluminense FC / Arsenal
    Ronarid! :mrgreen:
    Those where the days. No licenses but lots of fun.

    About Nick's question... If a new game came out middle year, maybe I wouldn't even bother, unless it had mass positive reviews.
    But with a X-mas release later this year, or a next year release, I would probably do it... Dunno why, but I always need a footie game with me, and it has always been Konami (EA has let me down for so many times).

    At last, speaking of footie... I'm not sure its called soccer in other places than in the US. And even in US... I was in DC talking to an american guy about 'soccer' and he promptly corrected me: "You mean football"! That was shocking!
     
  25. Ret KiT

    Ret KiT Premiership

    25 March 2007
    R.Larcos and a good gameplay matches well
     

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