rst of all dont get me wrong, I love PES (ISS) and have been playing it for a decade, but there are some things I really dont understand. Before I go on I have to say that this is my first PES for PC..... I am waiting for PS2 version. What i want to say is this. Were there no beta testers (maybe thats what we are) for this game at all. It all looks nice and shiny after first couple of games, but after this all hell breakes loose: - in my last 30 games (playing with Chievo) a totall of 76 goals were scored (me and opponent) of which 55 were either from a corner (19) or after my GK makes a save and they score from a rebound (36). In my book this alone is enough to make this game unplayable, but of course like most of you I too am a football freak and continue to loose my nerves (and joypads) - did those guys ever watch a football game in their life. Tackle is NOT another term for a yellow card, for f*** sake. They could of just left the tackle button with no action on deffense, or call it last resort button - when we are in counter attack and (become a legend) and my winger gets ahead a SB, why the heck doesnt he cross the ball......we are all ther just waiting for the ball......no he has to stop wait for the SB to catch him and take the ball - does a simple throw in has to be so complicated. When ever I have a throw in close to my goal my best bet is to pray they dont loose it - why do I fell like I am playing somewhere near the Amazon during the rain season. I mean does every second game has to rain like crazy Having said all that (cant think of more, although I know there is), gone get back to earning my self a good transfer in BAL, coz as I said, I am just a football junkie, but KONAMI better get their act straight, or else..... P.S. A question. Is the same team of people behind PC version and PS2 version?