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Tomb Raider: Legend

Discussion in 'Other Games' started by Professor Nutmeg, 5 January 2006.

  1. Professor Nutmeg

    Professor Nutmeg ML Fanatic

    3 July 2002
    Master League
    Anyone else looking forward to this? I know it's not everyone's cup of tea. I hear it's what you've been waiting for if you're a fan of the original. Back to the tombs, dangerous jungles and snowy moutain ruins. I love all that :) Although i see there is also non-tomb play as well.
    TR: AOD was a stinker and people got fired (rightly so), but i believe this will be a return to form. Something tells me they'll stick to their propsed release date this time too. March 2006?
     
    Last edited: 5 January 2006
  2. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    Like you say if it's anything like 1 then it'll do me nicely. The rest were pretty poor.
     
  3. Professor Nutmeg

    Professor Nutmeg ML Fanatic

    3 July 2002
    Master League
    Yeah, i look back at the original game fondly. It was the first Playstation game i bought when i purchased the console. Loved it to bits.
     
  4. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    Yeah the first one was amazing. Platforming, puzzles and some classic moments all rolled into an atmospheric game. The bit with the T-Rex was amazing! Shame the sequels moved away from the tombs and into cities, etc, they missed the whole point.
     
  5. Professor Nutmeg

    Professor Nutmeg ML Fanatic

    3 July 2002
    Master League
    I also loved Nathan McCree's score. I thought it was perfect for the setting at the whole vibe. I wasn't too fond of human enemies either which began to multiply in the later games. I prefer bears, tigers and piranhas :lol:
     
  6. Stan

    Stan Allez les Lionceaux !!!

    12 September 2002
    That was the first video game i ever tried ...
    My brother in law had it, i never came further than the tutorial level (which i did not manage to finish, that hopeless i was...i was particularly fond of the litle noises Lara made when climbing etc...).
    I will not buy it however...(just bought myself a PSP with a couple of games: PES (difficult), Mercury (great) and NBA STREET))
     
  7. fd1972uk

    fd1972uk ---------------------

    9 January 2002
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    Will you ever grow up Gerd? :mrgreen: ;)

    One of my favourites this, however I get a bit peeved with 1 title after another, was starting to get bored after about the 3rd (not even including the little extra missions discs). I have AOD, but have never got round to completing it, only a small way into it.

    Not so sure what I'll do, maybe will get it.


    FD
     
  8. Professor Nutmeg

    Professor Nutmeg ML Fanatic

    3 July 2002
    Master League
    Some blurb i found on the game. Hope you're sitting comfortably:

    If you've been a semi-decomposing mummy in a crypt for the past year, here's a quick catch-up on the new game. Basically, everything crap from the last game has been thrown out: the terrible hyper-accurate platformjumping based on a tile movement system; the character attributeupdates; the piss-poor camera; the wandering about empty Paris streets; that second rubbish playable bloke; the dearth of tombs to actually raid.

    In their place is a redesigned Lara who retains her curvy videogame features but with a less cartoon-like blow-up doll look, plus a stunning graphics engine, new traps, new intuitive moves, new gizmos, a decent targeting system, physics-based puzzles with multiple solutions, fully driveable vehicles and - yes - bloody big tombs. In a nutshell, Tomb Raider: Legend looks fun.

    A PC level:

    ROLL OUT THE BARREL
    The level we had exclusive access to was called Flashback, when Lara travels to Peru to visit a place where 'something very bad happened' when she was younger. In a dusty, deserted shanty town, she meets up with her childhood friend Anaya, after receiving directions from an unnamed male associate's voice on her headset.

    Suddenly, a truck full of goons skids into view and we're given a full gunsblazing demo of the new combat system.

    Targeting is auto-lock-on (although this can hopefully be toggled on or off for the PC version), and you can switch targets easily, allowing Lara to back-flip, forward roll and jump around, while simultaneously shooting bullets into various militia men's faces and jumpsliding them off their feet. So-called 'flair moves' allow Ms Croft to perform silky bullet-time kills, as well as, for example, double-jumping off an enemy's shoulders and blasting them from behind.

    In addition, the levels use full physics, so barrels will roll when shot and ragdoll bodies will crumple to the floor, plus 'objects of opportunity' present you with precariously placed explosives for seeing off foes with fiery chain-reactions. Lara's default weapons are the dual-pistols, but you can also pick up an extra firearm such as a shotgun or grenade launcher, and use grenades strapped to Lara's belt - a visible inventory that shows what items are available (there'll be no more pulling out a rocket launcher from an ever-expanding rucksack). An over-theshoulder fire mode for more accurate shooting finishes off the rest of the bad guys, and Lara is finally free to traipse further into the Peruvian jungle.

    ON YER BIKE
    The Flashback level progresses next via a vehicle section, that was unfortunately not quite ready to show off, but features a frantic motorbike chase. Lara will have complete control of the vehicle while being able to fire her weapons, and simultaneously has to avoid obstacles and use jump ramps to catch Anaya's kidnappers. Eventually, she arrives at an abandoned excavation site flooded with water, where we get our first glimpse of Lara's enhanced swimming abilities.

    Unlike other underwater sections in games, the control system isn't fully 3D (to avoid players getting confused) - default movement has Lara swimming at the same depth, while you can use the direction keys to move her up and down. You also always have two speeds of movement for Lara, as many of the game's puzzles are time-based - underwater this means you have short breast-strokes for a medium pace and long breast-strokes for zippier moves.

    In the first of the new underwater puzzles, Lara has to operate four crystal switches which lower the water level and reveal a clue to the mystery of the tragic event from her history. You're then into the first area of the Queen's Tomb, where Lara's 'personal light source' (a torch to you and me), illuminates the dark caverns in realtime. You're soon traversing ledges and fluidly leaping from wall-to-wall, with the animation of Lara giving physical feedback to you about what moves are possible, such as her head turning and looking at a reachable area. A shiny object on the ceiling of the cavern indicates a metal area that Lara can attach her metal grappling hook to and use realistic momentum to swing on the rope across a pitch-black chasm.

    ALL ACTION
    Suddenly, the haunting atmospheric music moves up several gears and the removal of the health bar and HUD shows that we're into one of Tomb Raider: Legend's new action sequences, used to catch you by surprise and up the tempo at unexpected points. Rather like the interactive cut-scenes in Fahrenheit (or Dragon's Lair for older coin-op fans), they force you to make critical control inputs at specific times. In the Flashback level, the scene is a series of collapsing platforms that Lara has to leap across, triggered by you pressing the key shown on-screen - do something wrong and she'll plunge into the depths below.

    BY ROYAL CONSENT
    If you manage to complete the sequence successfully, Lara enters the main chamber of the Queen's Tomb, a breathtaking wide-open area with ornately carved stonework, pockmarked walls and cobwebbed corners dimly lit by slivers of light streaming in through distant cracks. Crystal Dynamics wants to bring back the awe and wonder from previous Tomb Raider adventures, presenting you with a massive area to explore at your leisure, until you figure out what the hell you're supposed to do.

    In this case, walking over a pressure plate triggers the slight opening of an ancient door - yep, it's a physics puzzle where you have to find and move heavy stone balls around to complete the task. The first ancient sphere is easy, as it's on ground level, but the others have to be reached by climbing and jumping around the level, using your binoculars to spot areas for your handy grappling hook. Once you complete the task, a sphinx rises out of the ground directing the light beams around the tomb, and the door opens to reveal an ancient artefact. However, Lara's obvious joy at the discovery is short-lived, as she receives another crackly message on her headset that the militia-men have discovered her whereabouts...

    In short, Crystal Dynamics seems to be doing a sterling job with Tomb Raider: Legend. The team has gone back to what made the original games so addictive and immersing - the Indiana Jones-style mix of tomb exploration, conspiracy, puzzle-solving and edge-ofyour- seat combat - and added an intuitive control system and interactive cut-scenes. Finally, the whole package is being wrapped up in a stunning graphics engine that's being fully enhanced for high-end PCs - as you can see from these first true hi-res screenshots.

    CROFT ORIGINAL
    We've yet to see the game optimised for mouse/keyboard, but we're promised that the finished product will have fully customisable controls. There are no plans for multiplayer as yet, but Crystal Dynamics hinted that there might be online elements into the next game. However, that's a few years away - we're just looking forward to next spring, when we'll hopefully be able to play a new Tomb Raider title deserving of a genuine videogaming legend.
     
  9. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Banned

    12 February 2005
    London
    Yeah i'm looking forward to this game. I love the TR1, 2 and 3...the other ones were naff!

    Also i've got Tomb Raider 1 on the N-Gage, which is a good game to have on the little console.
     
  10. Stan

    Stan Allez les Lionceaux !!!

    12 September 2002
    I'm afraid not FD...boys like toys...
     
  11. studeep

    studeep ManUnited academy

    29 June 2005
    Uk
    Manchester United
  12. Soundtracker

    Soundtracker Guest

    Anyone tried this yet? I heard it's pretty good...
     
  13. CW

    CW C Dub Founding Member

    6 October 2001
    Liverpool
    Its not out officially til Friday but no doubt there will be a few people who get their hands on it early. Reviews so far have been promising though
     
  14. pablocoo

    pablocoo League 2

    6 November 2004
    I love that game :D Much better than AoD, feels a lot like PoP :mrgreen:

    @CWRight game is already in shops; some sellers wait till friday, other not ;)
     
  15. Dead Man

    Dead Man Guest

    Games mint!

    I hated the other Tomb Raiders but thos feels good will get on 360!

    (Hating the camera but just need to get used to it)

    Good job!
     
  16. Soundtracker

    Soundtracker Guest

    Looks like there are two modes you can choose for PC, normal and next gen graphics.

    I hope the gameplay is good because the gun fights I've seen in trailers seamed to much unrealistic and arcade.
     
  17. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    I've tried the PC demo and it is a big improvement on the recent Tomb Raider games. It's very like Prince of Persia in it's platforming now, which in some ways is good but in others bad, there is no real fear of heights anymore unlike in the original TR where one mistimed jump would leave Lara's head back to front. It required a lot of concentration and accurate jumping, this does most of the legwork for you and can feel a little shallow IMO.

    The shooting seems very hit 'n miss, I haven't managed to get into a shoot-out with an enemy yet and figure out a way of taking no damage, it appears to be nothing more than take aim and hope you kill them first in a button-mashing frenzy. But maybe that's because I haven't sussed the proper technique yet.

    I've heard the game is about 8/9 hours long. For a game with no online and practically no replay value, that's not worth the price it will cost on 360. You can get it for under 20 quid on PC I think, less than half the 360 price, something is far wrong there.
     
  18. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    Classic, every single review i have read is disappointed by the shooting in an otherwise excellent game...
     
  19. jaygrim

    jaygrim TheAllSeeingEye

    26 July 2005
    Everywhere.
    Man Utd
    The bike level is pretty bad too.
     
  20. total

    total International

    10 December 2005
    Slovenia
    Arsenal/OGC Nice
    Great game. I made the Japan level, but now I'm waiting for my X360 gamepad to come so I'll play with that and not with keyboard.
     
  21. jaygrim

    jaygrim TheAllSeeingEye

    26 July 2005
    Everywhere.
    Man Utd
    I finished it already, it's not such a big game.
     
  22. Soundtracker

    Soundtracker Guest

    Not big, but is it good?
     
  23. total

    total International

    10 December 2005
    Slovenia
    Arsenal/OGC Nice
    Did you just go on killing spree or did you find most (maybe even all) of the statues?

    Of course it's good. Just the idea of a "gifted" action babe running around playing with guns & stuff sounds tempting. :p
     
  24. jaygrim

    jaygrim TheAllSeeingEye

    26 July 2005
    Everywhere.
    Man Utd
    I went for the killing spree really but did stop to crack one off over Lara a couple of time's.
     
  25. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Just tried the 360 demo. Do not like it one bit. She bounces around like she's a bionic woman, and the gameplay to me seems no different from the last one. At least that's one more game I don't have to save up for.
     
  26. Cloud1863

    Cloud1863 Premiership

    10 December 2004
    Stoke City
    I got this far and turned it off, really bad game tbh.
     

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