As we are currently trailing Wales by 4-0, I have to wonder where we are going under Vogts. We have now hit rock bottom, I thought that after this amount of time Vogts would have a good idea of his best players, formation, style of play?. I know that he does not have any great players to pick but some of his descisions in selection and tactically are extremely strange(Murty, Dailly as a midfielder, Steven Caldwell etc). IMO Vogts has had a long enough run and we have seen very little progression at all. There are a good few young players in our ranks and I feel someone like Gordon Strachan could get the best out of our players. I am sure that all fellow Scots will agree that although this was a friendly it is the last straw.