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The best eleven ever

Discussion in 'Football' started by gerd, 22 October 2010.

  1. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    The Guardian websiote is doing a best eleven and what they are choosing is nowhere near my taste...of course these are useless discussions but that why it's fun.
    My best eleven.

    GK: Neville Southall
    LB: Carlos Alberto
    RB: Eric Gerets
    CB: Gaetano Scirea
    CB: Baresi

    LMF: Ryan Giggs
    DMF: Fernando Redondo
    AMF: Giuseppe Giannini
    RMF: George Best

    SS: Eric Cantona
    CF: Gerd Muller

    Bench: Schmeichel - Krol - Zidane - Van Basten - Rivera


    I know no Maradonna, no Pele...it's all very, very subjective...

    Now up to you...
     
  2. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    Seeing as most people haven't even watched those players, what about the best 11 of YOUR life time?
     
  3. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    I've seen them all Stef...the oldest is Carlos Alberto.
    I was 8 years in 1970 when he scored that marvelous goal in the WC-final.

    But because you are such a nice guy, i will try a more recent "favourite" eleven.


    GK: Toldo

    LB: Maldini
    CB: Baresi
    CB: Stam
    RB: Thuram

    LMF: Giggs
    DMF: Xabi Alonso
    AMF: Zidane
    RMF: Ginola

    SS: Cantona
    CF: Villa


    Bench: Jaaskelainen - Litmanen - Iniesta - Eto'o - Pique
     
  4. Dominic

    Dominic Serie A Staff

    19 August 2003
    Netherlands
    Buffon
    Thuram Ferrara Montero Zambrotta
    Camoranesi Zidane Deschamps Nedved
    Trezeguet Del Piero

    :P
     
  5. The_Special_One

    The_Special_One #helpmemeetgenie

    17 August 2007
    Lovely Estoril
    #geniearmy
    GK: Buffon

    LB: Roberto Carlos
    CB: Maldini
    CB: Cannavaro
    RB: Cafu

    LMF: Nedved
    DMF: Redondo
    AMF: Zidane
    RMF: Figo

    CF: Ronaldo
    CF: Rivaldo
     
  6. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    I tried and tried, but I just can't come up with an 11. It's too hard. I can only establish these players again and again:

    Maldini, Nesta, Thuram, Zidane, Nedved, Messi, Batistuta and Rui Costa. But there are so many like Baggio, Del Piero, Rivaldo etc etc.
     
  7. Jumbo_

    Jumbo_ -

    17 August 2006
    Manchester
    Manchester United
    There's now a blog on the website because Gerrard got included in the alltime XI, which is frankly laughable and people are kicking off!

    Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta etc not included but Gerrard gets in. Shows the calibre of internet user nowadays, even on a slightly highbrow paper like The Guardian.
     
    Last edited: 24 October 2010
  8. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    Imo Gerrard is one of the most eover-hyped players ever.
    I wouldn't even include him in a premiership best eleven of the noughties...
     
  9. Neoexodus

    Neoexodus SLB Juve Barça Arsenal

    8 November 2007
    Portugal
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    I think Cannavaro is slightly overrated. To me, his career really kicked off in his late 20's and 30's. imo Nesta was always the better one. His transfer to Milan was one of the most expensive at the time and his technique is a perfect 10. The man is still playing at an extremely high level without any flaws.
     
  11. Neoexodus

    Neoexodus SLB Juve Barça Arsenal

    8 November 2007
    Portugal
    Its the same for me, either Canna or Nesta would be partners with Gerard. I just wrote canna cous i didn't remember Nesta, but i would definitely replace one for another.
     
  12. The_Special_One

    The_Special_One #helpmemeetgenie

    17 August 2007
    Lovely Estoril
    #geniearmy
    You should think that isn't easy to be a world class CB when you only have 176 cm. Plus, he won the FIFA Player award. But I agree with you, Canna and Nesta were/are superb.
     
  13. PIPA23

    PIPA23 retired :) Staff

    21 June 2007
    England
    LFC
    :FAIL:

    sorry but that is ridiculous...
     
  14. PIPA23

    PIPA23 retired :) Staff

    21 June 2007
    England
    LFC
    from the players i have witnessed in my life..my best 11 would be:

    --------------------- Kahn ------------------

    D. Alves -- Hyypia ----- Maldini --- R. Carlos

    -------- Gerrard ---- Nedvěd ----- Zidane ----

    C. Ronaldo --------------- Ronaldinho --------

    ------------- Messi --------------------------
     
  15. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    I know threads like this are very subjective but saying that someone other's opnion is ridculous, is a lack of respect.

    I can argue my opinion about Gerrard not being in the theam of the noughties.
    Gerrard is a CMF, well Essien, Lampard, Xabi Alonso and Cesc Fabregas are arguably 4 players that are better than Gerrard....that is subjective but not ridiculous at all...i'm also pretty sure that Viera playe for Arsenal in the noughties...there are plenty of arguments to say that Viera is better than Gerrard too..
     
    Last edited: 24 October 2010
  16. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    How do you rate Marc Wilmotts gerd? Or what's the general Belgian consensus towards him?
     
  17. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    The best Belgian player of his generation but his generation was a very weak one.
    He would never be in all-time best Belgian team, not even on the bench.
    I personally liked him a lot. He had lots of personality be he was not a pure talent.
     
  18. ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue

    ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue Banned

    9 October 2010
    i agree on the nesta - cana thing , nesta is better
    to speak in pes overall rating both players on their peak or somin:
    (including overall best players in history in mind)
    cana is 90
    nesta 93

    also agree on gerrard, overrated

    @ gerd
    how u rate hazard ?
    can he go to be in the best belgian 11 ?
     
  19. sauce

    sauce Warriors

    20 September 2005
    Chatbox, Brazil
    Cruzeiro
    Gerd how often you saw those guys from old days? Just World Cups and important tournaments or club games too?

    Anyway I cant even think of my club favorite eleven since I started understanding the game, imagine all players, there are far too many options.

    I also think its a bit unfair to put players who still active, they can still mess up their carreer, Ronaldão anyone? You cant pick a momment but careers.
     
  20. Glavisted

    Glavisted Premiership

    20 July 2005
    Lima, Perú
    If you refer to Brazilian Carlos Alberto Torres, he was basically a right back.

    My best eleven would be:

    Lev Yashin (Soviet Union)
    Bobby Moore (England) --- Franco Baresi (Italy)
    Carlos Alberto (Brazil) ------ Franz Beckenbauer (Germany) ------ Paolo Maldini (Italy)
    Alfredo di Stéfano (Argentina) --- Diego Maradona (Argentina)
    Garrincha (Brazil) ---------------- Pelé (Brazil) ------------ Johan Cruyff (Netherlands)​

    Second team:

    Dino Zoff (Italy)
    Gaetano Scirea (Italy) --- Daniel Passarella (Argentina)
    Djalma Santos (Brazil) -------------------------------------------------- Nílton Santos (Brazil)
    Lothar Matthäus (Germany)
    Michel Platini (France) ------- Zinedine Zidane (France)
    Ferenc Puskás (Hungary) -------- Ronaldo (Brazil) --------- George Best (Northern Ireland)​
     
  21. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    Hazard is nowhere near the best Belgian eleven ever. He can become one of them, but it's too soon now.
    I admit that i only saw Carlos Alberto at 1970 WC. He made a fantastic impression on me (in 1986 the BBC showed some 1970 matches integrally as a prelude to the second WC-tournament in Mexico...). I never knew he was a right back...

    Passarella could also have been in my team.

    Cool teams Glavisted.
     
  22. Zeem

    Zeem Wonder Boy

    15 July 2006
    AC Milan
    For the players I witnessed:

    ----------------------Schmeichel--------------------
    -Cafu-----------Maldini---------Nesta-----------J. Zanetti-
    ---------------------------Pirlo---------------------------
    ------------------------Zidane-----------------------------
    --Giggs--------------------------------------Ronaldinho----
    -----------------Shevchenko-----Henry----------------------
     
  23. omer

    omer ......

    25 February 2007
    Frankfurt am Main
    Fenerbahçe SK
    ------------------ Taffarel -------------------

    Cafu ---- Cannavaro ---- Puyol ---------- R.Carlos

    --------------- Makalele --- Viera -----------

    ------- Figo -------Zidane------------ Ronaldinho

    ----------------- Ronaldo 99 ---------------------
     
  24. MASTER - w11

    MASTER - w11 Avante, Todo Poderoso !!!

    9 June 2003
    São Paulo, Brasil
    Corinthians
    Here is mine:

    [​IMG]

    It is hard to make one team, and if you ask me again another day I may change some names, but that's what I can think now...
     
  25. lo zio

    lo zio International

    24 October 2005
    Palermo
    ------------------------------buffon

    -----zanetti-----------baresi---------nesta------------maldini

    --------------------redondo
    -----------------------------------------scholes

    -----------------------------totti

    -----------maradona----------------------------baggio
    ---------------------------van basten

    but just like MASTER - w11 said, the thing with theese "best 11" is that's impossible to come out with just 1 player for each role.... i mean, looking at the line up i just posted, there are so many great players that would deserve to be in there just as much as the ones i mentioned (like scirea, xavi, pirlo, cafu, mattheus, zidane, platini, zico, ronaldo... i mean the brazilian one).... it's just impossible to come out with a single best 11.
     
  26. PLF

    PLF Legend

    2 August 2004
    So Gerets used to be a very good player huh?

    I didn't even know. Thanks for info.

    I guess like Ancelotti then, he was not only a very good player but turned out to be a very good manager.
     
  27. brunnoce

    brunnoce It's a Grand Old Team

    29 July 2003
    Belo Horizonte, Brazil
    Cruzeiro/Everton
    Mine, only from players iv seen:
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: 3 November 2010
  28. Jumbo_

    Jumbo_ -

    17 August 2006
    Manchester
    Manchester United
    SHAY FUCKING GIVEN!?!?!!??!?!?!?!??!!?!?!? :SHOCK: :?:
     
  29. StuartCulli

    StuartCulli College Dropout

    25 July 2006
    Newcastle United
    :LOL:
     
  30. sauce

    sauce Warriors

    20 September 2005
    Chatbox, Brazil
    Cruzeiro
    Dude Arce! He was freaking awesome, forgot about this fella. True FK Master Juninho got nothing on him :)

    I'm still thinking about my list since my last post here. Can't make my mind.
     

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