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Discussion in 'Winning Eleven' started by omimiga, 15 December 2005.

  1. omimiga

    omimiga Conference

    Please guys make a guide with the directions you press in the positions A to F and place to put the ball (1 and 2)


    EXAMPLE: C1 - UP
    C2 - DOWN
    (I press it, but not good results)

    What's the better direction to press when shoting in these positions... please help! I'm losing too many shots

    A question: WHEN INSIDE THE BOX does the direction CHANGES? Because I've heard in one-on-one with the keeper if you press RIGHT or LEFT you put in the extreme corners (1 and 2) with more chance of miss, and if you press UP and DOWN you put the ball in the corners with less chance of miss but the keeper is more able to defend it... is it true?

    I used to shot in past WEs using DIAGONALS, is that an error in WE9?
    Last edited: 15 December 2005
  2. sonywewe

    sonywewe Guest

    Its easy, if you press left, it will go to keepers left hand, if you press right it will go to his right hand no matter what your position is
  3. BK_83

    BK_83 World Class

    7 June 2003
    are u sure????

    it should be C1 for goal 1 and c2 for goal 2
    but sometimes the player shoots randomly... beats me too

    actually all the positions are good for shots... but it depends on what foot the player shoots with to have the best position.. lets say a right footed player, for position a,c,d for aiming at 2, position c,d for aiming at 1

    another hint is try to shoot low shots as they are harder for GK to save and they seem kind of buggy when saving low shots
    Last edited: 15 December 2005
  4. Artist

    Artist Guest

    A shooting guide is impossible to make as the game is great and has so many variables... That diagram it´s incorrect as the keeper is never in that position. You have to look where the keeper is and try to put the ball where is more difficult to the keeper to reach. Usually they let an angle of the net uncovered and you have to try to put the ball in that angle. However you have to pay attention to the player´s preferred foot, shot acc, shot technique, agility (that stat improves the player´s response when shooting). As I told you.. is impossible to make a guide... just practice and you need a little bit of luck too :)
  5. Zygalski

    Zygalski Ninja Samurai

    2 February 2003
    London, UK

    Up or up+right = aimed at 1.
    Down or down+right = aimed at 2.

  6. omimiga

    omimiga Conference

    You understood what I wanted!

    That's it... I wasn't asking when is better to shot 1 or 2... but HOW TO GET THE BALL THERE in these positions...
    So the positions and direction that the player is facing doesn't change the D-PAD you press? Are you sure?
    Because when I'm in line with post 2 if I press DOWN the BALL ALWAYS go OUT!
    Last edited: 15 December 2005
  7. BK_83

    BK_83 World Class

    7 June 2003
    haven u noticed? how long have u been playing
  8. studeep

    studeep ManUnited academy

    29 June 2005
    Manchester United
    i dont ultimately agree with that there as personally, before i always use the up+right and down+right buttons when in one on one situations or outside the box shots but i'ld say it works for me 20% of the time the other 80% it goes wide (like i said this is a personal opinion ;)) but using the right and left buttons when you shoot it my best bet because its a bit more productive than the later...... try it, it might be of great help ;)
  9. total

    total International

    10 December 2005
    Arsenal/OGC Nice
    When you're 1 on 1 with the keeper make sure you press R2 just before your player kickcs the ball.
  10. simakperrce

    simakperrce Guest

    Generally Zygalski is right (and certainly in training this all makes sense) but there are too many factors defining where your shot goes. Player's angle towards the goal, the position of his foot, where the ball is coming from, his ability stats etc.

    I also think it's often totally random. You point left (up) but the shot goes right or to the middle. A bit too random for my taste, but I don't want to start another discussion.
  11. omimiga

    omimiga Conference

    I tried using RIGHT or LEFT out of the box and it improved a lot, specially when you are in line with the post... I'm getting 33% of goals with a clear shot in good positions... using UP or DOWN I used to score less than 25%...

    In one-on-one it's better to press UP or DOWN... Right or Left misses a lot... NEVER USE DIAGONALS in ONE-ON-ONE!
    Last edited: 16 December 2005
  12. omimiga

    omimiga Conference

    SURE?? I use to shot with R2 pressed when outside the box and the ball goes more powerfull and with less curve...

    Never tried in 1 on 1 with the keeper
  13. limeyboy14

    limeyboy14 Guest

    What do you mean by UP and DOWN? If you're going left to right, with the goal on the right hand side of the screen, does up mean to the keeper's right (shooter's left)?
  14. ricola_pak

    ricola_pak Non-League

    29 October 2005
    Just shoot with lots of power and before the player kicks the ball, press R1, lobs and scores, who cares about direction.
  15. dalessandro

    dalessandro League 2

    8 October 2004
    I've never known.
    People used to say regarding previous PES that whatever the position (and indeed the quality of the shot depends on many factors), it is on the D-pad :

    Left : shoot to the left post (left post for the shooter not the keeper)
    Right : shoot to the right post

    Combined with :
    Up : powerful and tense
    Down : foating

    I quite never managed to be sure it's true as it should be (when running from right to left), as for me

    Up : left post
    Down : right post
    Left : floating
    right : tense

    and when running from right to left

    Up : right
    Down : left
    Left : tense
    Right : floating

    It'll be great that those who consider having good skills tell us about that !!!!!!!!!!
  16. omimiga

    omimiga Conference

    In WE 9??? I miss a lot with that.. every time goalkeeper catches or goes wide... how much in the bar do I have to fill if I'm in penalty mark?

    Another one: the L1+square just seems impossible right now, do anyone know how much to fill in the bar to get over the keeper and in the goal?
  17. ricola_pak

    ricola_pak Non-League

    29 October 2005
    Yeah L1 is really hard to do now. But for R1, just get almost full bar of power, it should be fine.

    Nonetheless, most of the time I don't do anything but simply shoot at either bottom corner.
  18. omimiga

    omimiga Conference

    Thx man! I will try... do you direct the ball or don't press D-Pad? Or just adjusts the curve to make sure it goes to goal?

    And with how much distance of the keeper should I shot?
  19. ricola_pak

    ricola_pak Non-League

    29 October 2005
    Not sure what you mean by adjusting the curve, I do press the D-pad, and in response to the first post in this thread, I think when I shoot I press my control stick to the direction I want it regardless of which way my player is facing.

    And as for how much distance etc., I really just "feel" for it. How did I get this kind of instinct? Well, remember WE8's training in ML? I did the shooting practice for all my players, doing 1v1 that much really helped.

    So I suggest you to just keep doing it in training mode if you have trouble.
  20. Mauras

    Mauras Premiership

    7 October 2002
    funny to see this discussion pop in over and over :).

    I have the same problem ever since, In fact I usually need 15 shots to score a single goal lol :)

    If you test it you'll find out it's even a greater mistery than it looks: simply DON'T TOUCH any directions after pressing square and you'll find that, despite what you think that shot will not always go straight forward. Sometimes it also picks a direction. How more confusing can it go now? :)
  21. limeyboy14

    limeyboy14 Guest

    For me, I've found that not pressing any direction just kicks it in the direction that the player is facing. That's why I've never scored without pressing a direction, as I often shoot when I'm not facing exactly where I want to kick it.
  22. ricola_pak

    ricola_pak Non-League

    29 October 2005
    I don't use the D Pad as I use the analog stick, and I have had absolutely no problem with shooting direction. Only times I miss are when the keeper saves it or I shoot it wide (but in the right direction).
  23. omimiga

    omimiga Conference

    I never miss the direction... but miss a lot (right direction) and goalkeeper is a monster!

    I'm with 33% of convertion right now... I'm using UP or DOWN when 1-on-1 and RIGHT or LEFT when shoting outside of the box
  24. jiwa

    jiwa The BEautiful Game

    31 May 2005
    I use analogs too.

    Assuming that player stats, positioning(balance,stride), prefered foot and other factors are not brought into the equation.

    I usually use:

    Up/Up-Right or Up-Left to put it into area 1.
    Dwn/Dwn-Right or Dwn-Left to put it into Area 2.

    I feel that pushing the opposite direction (ie. Up left/dwn left) nails those low shots into the corners.

    But all these have to be applied in context with the player stats, balance, and prefered foot. Also whether he's under pressure or not.

    The above is what works for me, others may disagree.

    Very very subjective issue this. I feel, training mode is not a good place to try it out as the results there sometimes don't reflect what turns out during a match. You net to get a feel for it during actual matches.


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