Dominic
Serie A
- 19 August 2003
So You tend to love bald people, eh Stuart?
ThomasGOAL
Retired Footballer
- 15 March 2003
diouf26 said:
Breakin News !
Zidane extend his contract to Real Madrid until in 2007 !
is best new of the century :mrgreen:
ThomasGOAL
Retired Footballer
- 15 March 2003
Real Madrid - 4 (Ronaldo 54' - Zidane 64' 92' - Figo 71')
Celta Vigo - 2 (Ilic 17' - Milosevic 90')
Zidane score times, i think the last time is in World Cup final :mrgreen:
Celta Vigo - 2 (Ilic 17' - Milosevic 90')
Zidane score times, i think the last time is in World Cup final :mrgreen:
Madrid, Spain (Sports Network) - Less than a week after saving face for Spanish giants Real Madrid in Champions League action against Bayern Munich, Brazilian Roberto Carlos was slapped with a two-match ban by UEFA for retaliation against Bavarian player Martin Demichelis.
The World Cup-winner defender pulled Real level in the 83rd minute of their 1-1 draw with Bayern at the Olympic Stadium last Tuesday. His goal, just eight minutes after Roy Makaay put the hosts ahead, appeared lucky after 'keeper Oliver Kahn botched an easy save -- letting the ball skip underneath his reach and into the net.
But Roberto Carlos proved to be both the hero and the goat in the first-leg match, retaliating against Bayern's Martin Demichelis in the 59th minute of the draw following a foul.
According to video evidence, Roberto Carlos hit Demichelis after a challenge by the Bayern defender. While the Argentine was booked on yellow for the hard foul, match official Terje Hauge couldn't see the Brazilian's immediate reaction -- his view impaired by two other players.
But after reviewing the video, UEFA's disciplinary arm ruled against Roberto Carlos, but lessened the punishment from the usual three-game ban to one of just two because of the preceding action by Demichelis.
"The UEFA disciplinary body ruled that Roberto Carlos had committed an act of assault, which usually carries a three-match ban," UEFA said in a statement on their web site. "However, it took into account the foul committed on the player, and subsequently imposed a two-match suspension."
UEFA's charge of improper conduct could see the Brazilian back-liner miss next week's return leg at the Bernabeu -- a potential omission Real may not be able to afford. However, he has until Thursday to voice an appeal against the suspension.
The World Cup-winner defender pulled Real level in the 83rd minute of their 1-1 draw with Bayern at the Olympic Stadium last Tuesday. His goal, just eight minutes after Roy Makaay put the hosts ahead, appeared lucky after 'keeper Oliver Kahn botched an easy save -- letting the ball skip underneath his reach and into the net.
But Roberto Carlos proved to be both the hero and the goat in the first-leg match, retaliating against Bayern's Martin Demichelis in the 59th minute of the draw following a foul.
According to video evidence, Roberto Carlos hit Demichelis after a challenge by the Bayern defender. While the Argentine was booked on yellow for the hard foul, match official Terje Hauge couldn't see the Brazilian's immediate reaction -- his view impaired by two other players.
But after reviewing the video, UEFA's disciplinary arm ruled against Roberto Carlos, but lessened the punishment from the usual three-game ban to one of just two because of the preceding action by Demichelis.
"The UEFA disciplinary body ruled that Roberto Carlos had committed an act of assault, which usually carries a three-match ban," UEFA said in a statement on their web site. "However, it took into account the foul committed on the player, and subsequently imposed a two-match suspension."
UEFA's charge of improper conduct could see the Brazilian back-liner miss next week's return leg at the Bernabeu -- a potential omission Real may not be able to afford. However, he has until Thursday to voice an appeal against the suspension.
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
how the fuck does that shit Pavon get in the all star Real madrid team?
he couldnt even play in an allstar conference team, he is utter shite
he couldnt even play in an allstar conference team, he is utter shite
cigol
League 1
- 14 August 2003
lol... if you've got a better defender you can sneak through the youth system go ahead and try.
It's the Presidents of the club and the way they want to run it. I think they will have to give in sooner or later though because it's quite clear they can't cut it.
So many mistakes it's actually scary to watch
They can't mark for shit, not just Pavon all of them.
Roberto Carlos will be missed (despite his near own-goal blunder) but perhaps Solari can play in his position for the first leg.
It's the Presidents of the club and the way they want to run it. I think they will have to give in sooner or later though because it's quite clear they can't cut it.
So many mistakes it's actually scary to watch
They can't mark for shit, not just Pavon all of them.
Roberto Carlos will be missed (despite his near own-goal blunder) but perhaps Solari can play in his position for the first leg.
Fred_Gavioes
Brazilian showman
real madrid rules the solar systeam
Dominic
Serie A
- 19 August 2003
I like the new formation Real is using, the 4-5-1:
Midfield:
-----------Beckham -- Guti
---------Figo----Raul---Zidane
------------------Ronaldo
Although i'd replace Guti.
Hehe i like 4-5-1 always, no matter which team uses it..
Midfield:
-----------Beckham -- Guti
---------Figo----Raul---Zidane
------------------Ronaldo
Although i'd replace Guti.
Hehe i like 4-5-1 always, no matter which team uses it..
oasismark
Conference
- 11 March 2003
Can someone show me a pic of ronaldo's current boots he wears?
I've searched everywhere.
Thanks in advance
I've searched everywhere.
Thanks in advance
oasismark
Conference
- 11 March 2003
found one:
denirobob
IBERIAN PRIMERA
- 28 June 2002
Reality bites
The embarrassment of Spain's disgraced president is being mirrored in the performances of his favourite team. Sid Lowe explains why it's all going pear-shaped for Real Madrid.
Monday March 22, 2004
Things really aren't going well for José María Aznar. Sure, the parting is as rigid as ever and the moustache as absurd as ever. Okay, so he's still president for a month and he remains more than capable of taking off his glasses with one hand, pointing with the other and oh-so-earnestly trotting out his favourite catchphrase, España va bien (Spain's going well), infuriatingly pausing in. All the. Wrong. Places.
But Aznar no longer believes his own words. For him, España doesn't va particularly bien any more. First, he was defeated and disgraced in the general election, when he was expecting to hand over power to his lieutenant Mariano Rajoy as a winner and a statesman but ended up a liar. And, then, just as he thought he could take refuge in his beloved Real Madrid, it turns out that he can't.
You see, president elect Jose Luis Rodríguez Zapatero is a Barça fan. The government team is no longer the government team and the impact has been immediate. Since Aznar lost, Madrid haven't won a match. Rivals Barça haven't lost: last night a fabulous late free kick from birthday-boy genius Ronaldinho secured their ninth successive victory, hauling back twelve points on Madrid, who they now trail by just six.
Seemingly cruising to the treble just days ago, times have changed in Madrid. On Wednesday, they lost the Copa del Rey final 3-2 in extra time and on Saturday they were beaten again, 4-2. And, just to upset Aznar that bit more, it was up in the Basque Country, against Athletic Bilbao.
Fielding the same side that lost the Cup final, Madrid looked shattered and aided Athletic with some top-drawer slapstick defending. "What a cross to bear this defence is!" exclaimed Marca's front cover, while editor Elías Israel described it as "a colander". But it wasn't just the defence: when Athletic left-back Asier Del Horno scored twice to make it 4-2, it was well deserved.
Eight clear just three weeks ago, Madrid are now top by a solitary point after Valencia beat Mallorca 5-1 last night and they're running out of steam. Small wonder that the Spanish press have wheeled out its favourite word (well, after galáctico), as gratuitously inflated as a helium balloon featuring Anne Widecombe face. Yes, it's crisis time.
Exaggerated though "crisis" is, Madrid are struggling. David Beckham's form has dipped horribly since Christmas and while AS purred dreamily when they were first paired, his central partnership with Guti isn't working. "David, for God's sake, come back," wrote AS's Madrid-supporting columnist Tomás Roncero yesterday, "your football has got lost somewhere on your trips to London."
Zidane and Roberto Carlos have been desperately disappointing recently, too, while Raúl has had a shocking season. Madrid have sorely missed the injured Ronaldo, not winning in the four games he's been out. Not just because of his goals, vital all season, but because he alters the entire balance - with Raul alone up front and forever drifting back, Madrid lose shape. Moreover, the enormous weight Ronaldo carries (in the team, that is) is such that his absence almost sparked an anxiety attack amongst his team-mates. No wonder the cover of today's AS rather desperately reads: "Ronnie to the rescue".
Above all, Madrid are struggling physically - and the man getting the blame is coach Carlos Queiroz. How things have changed: when Real Madrid dumped Vicente Del Bosque, president Florentino Pérez claimed it was because he wanted a "modern" manager who would demand more from his players and get them fitter.
Del Bosque was too old, too permissive - a kindly, cuddly club man with the world's warmest handshake and a tremendous moustache, the son of a railway trade unionist. The man who ambled about the training pitch, doing kick-ups while his players did pretty much whatever they felt like, his belly bulging below an ill-fitting Madrid tracksuit. Queiroz, by contrast, is tanned and handsome, wears his tie in one of those collosal knots so beloved of footballers and is fluent in English and Spanish. And he brought a physical trainer with him. Pérez was delighted.
Not so now. Pérez is keeping quiet, but he's far from impressed, not least because Queiroz has publicly questioned the club's squad-building policy.
Given a helpful nudge, the media blame has been placed firmly on Queiroz's doorstep - for not rotating, for always fielding the same eleven and for not trusting in Madrid's youth-teamers. Thrust deep into Pérez's pocket, below the hanky and the loose change, it's AS that have led the way. "Queiroz's lack of confidence in the cantera sinks Madrid," ran Sunday's front page. Inside, Roncero accused him of "burning the team for two weeks; he's decided to die with the same eleven pairs of boots on." Meanwhile, editor Alfredo Relaño, reminded him that "Casillas, Guti and Raúl came from the youth team - because someone trusted them."
Yet Madrid's drop in form, while Queiroz has made some mistakes, is more a product of Pérez's "Zidanes y Pavones" policy - his insistence on putting together a side made up of youth-teamers and superstars, shifting out the "middle-class".
Sadly, you can't polish a turd: Queiroz does not trust in Madrid's youth teamers because they're not good enough; he doesn't rotate because his squad is absurdly short. His unused subs in the Cup final were Cambiasso, Juanfran, Pavón, and Borja. Who would take off Figo, Zidane or Beckham for them? And, anyway, at Pérez's marketing-mad Madrid, the superstars have to play, even if, as one columnist put it: "Madrid are becoming like Jurassic Park - a collection of exquisite dinosaurs." That's why the players have nicknamed Queiroz Toni Grande, Del Bosque's old No. 2; because they see him as powerless. Pérez is the boss and his maximalist policy may be starting to come undone.
At the start of the season, Queiroz privately admitted it would be a "miracle" for Madrid to succeed. The easy victory everyone anticipated could yet fail to materialise, something José María Aznar knows all about.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/continental/story/0,8018,1175480,00.html
The embarrassment of Spain's disgraced president is being mirrored in the performances of his favourite team. Sid Lowe explains why it's all going pear-shaped for Real Madrid.
Monday March 22, 2004
Things really aren't going well for José María Aznar. Sure, the parting is as rigid as ever and the moustache as absurd as ever. Okay, so he's still president for a month and he remains more than capable of taking off his glasses with one hand, pointing with the other and oh-so-earnestly trotting out his favourite catchphrase, España va bien (Spain's going well), infuriatingly pausing in. All the. Wrong. Places.
But Aznar no longer believes his own words. For him, España doesn't va particularly bien any more. First, he was defeated and disgraced in the general election, when he was expecting to hand over power to his lieutenant Mariano Rajoy as a winner and a statesman but ended up a liar. And, then, just as he thought he could take refuge in his beloved Real Madrid, it turns out that he can't.
You see, president elect Jose Luis Rodríguez Zapatero is a Barça fan. The government team is no longer the government team and the impact has been immediate. Since Aznar lost, Madrid haven't won a match. Rivals Barça haven't lost: last night a fabulous late free kick from birthday-boy genius Ronaldinho secured their ninth successive victory, hauling back twelve points on Madrid, who they now trail by just six.
Seemingly cruising to the treble just days ago, times have changed in Madrid. On Wednesday, they lost the Copa del Rey final 3-2 in extra time and on Saturday they were beaten again, 4-2. And, just to upset Aznar that bit more, it was up in the Basque Country, against Athletic Bilbao.
Fielding the same side that lost the Cup final, Madrid looked shattered and aided Athletic with some top-drawer slapstick defending. "What a cross to bear this defence is!" exclaimed Marca's front cover, while editor Elías Israel described it as "a colander". But it wasn't just the defence: when Athletic left-back Asier Del Horno scored twice to make it 4-2, it was well deserved.
Eight clear just three weeks ago, Madrid are now top by a solitary point after Valencia beat Mallorca 5-1 last night and they're running out of steam. Small wonder that the Spanish press have wheeled out its favourite word (well, after galáctico), as gratuitously inflated as a helium balloon featuring Anne Widecombe face. Yes, it's crisis time.
Exaggerated though "crisis" is, Madrid are struggling. David Beckham's form has dipped horribly since Christmas and while AS purred dreamily when they were first paired, his central partnership with Guti isn't working. "David, for God's sake, come back," wrote AS's Madrid-supporting columnist Tomás Roncero yesterday, "your football has got lost somewhere on your trips to London."
Zidane and Roberto Carlos have been desperately disappointing recently, too, while Raúl has had a shocking season. Madrid have sorely missed the injured Ronaldo, not winning in the four games he's been out. Not just because of his goals, vital all season, but because he alters the entire balance - with Raul alone up front and forever drifting back, Madrid lose shape. Moreover, the enormous weight Ronaldo carries (in the team, that is) is such that his absence almost sparked an anxiety attack amongst his team-mates. No wonder the cover of today's AS rather desperately reads: "Ronnie to the rescue".
Above all, Madrid are struggling physically - and the man getting the blame is coach Carlos Queiroz. How things have changed: when Real Madrid dumped Vicente Del Bosque, president Florentino Pérez claimed it was because he wanted a "modern" manager who would demand more from his players and get them fitter.
Del Bosque was too old, too permissive - a kindly, cuddly club man with the world's warmest handshake and a tremendous moustache, the son of a railway trade unionist. The man who ambled about the training pitch, doing kick-ups while his players did pretty much whatever they felt like, his belly bulging below an ill-fitting Madrid tracksuit. Queiroz, by contrast, is tanned and handsome, wears his tie in one of those collosal knots so beloved of footballers and is fluent in English and Spanish. And he brought a physical trainer with him. Pérez was delighted.
Not so now. Pérez is keeping quiet, but he's far from impressed, not least because Queiroz has publicly questioned the club's squad-building policy.
Given a helpful nudge, the media blame has been placed firmly on Queiroz's doorstep - for not rotating, for always fielding the same eleven and for not trusting in Madrid's youth-teamers. Thrust deep into Pérez's pocket, below the hanky and the loose change, it's AS that have led the way. "Queiroz's lack of confidence in the cantera sinks Madrid," ran Sunday's front page. Inside, Roncero accused him of "burning the team for two weeks; he's decided to die with the same eleven pairs of boots on." Meanwhile, editor Alfredo Relaño, reminded him that "Casillas, Guti and Raúl came from the youth team - because someone trusted them."
Yet Madrid's drop in form, while Queiroz has made some mistakes, is more a product of Pérez's "Zidanes y Pavones" policy - his insistence on putting together a side made up of youth-teamers and superstars, shifting out the "middle-class".
Sadly, you can't polish a turd: Queiroz does not trust in Madrid's youth teamers because they're not good enough; he doesn't rotate because his squad is absurdly short. His unused subs in the Cup final were Cambiasso, Juanfran, Pavón, and Borja. Who would take off Figo, Zidane or Beckham for them? And, anyway, at Pérez's marketing-mad Madrid, the superstars have to play, even if, as one columnist put it: "Madrid are becoming like Jurassic Park - a collection of exquisite dinosaurs." That's why the players have nicknamed Queiroz Toni Grande, Del Bosque's old No. 2; because they see him as powerless. Pérez is the boss and his maximalist policy may be starting to come undone.
At the start of the season, Queiroz privately admitted it would be a "miracle" for Madrid to succeed. The easy victory everyone anticipated could yet fail to materialise, something José María Aznar knows all about.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/continental/story/0,8018,1175480,00.html
Vannizzlefashizzal
TWENTYTIMES!!!!
- 31 October 2002
Good article, most people who take the time to read about other leagues know the deal about Madrid.
Apart from the football they are capable of playing everything else about the club is pretty shitty, ask Makelele.
Apart from the football they are capable of playing everything else about the club is pretty shitty, ask Makelele.
Dominic
Serie A
- 19 August 2003
Great article! So very true.
- Thread starter
- #104
B
Boro
Guest
Use This thread fellas for the
"Real Madrid CF Inquest"
"Real Madrid CF Inquest"
Fred_Gavioes
Brazilian showman
ronaldo almost got into a fight with a supporter.
the guy called ronaldo fat, and kept sayin we need u morientes hehe.
then ronaldo got mad, and went to fight, but the security managed to stop the confusion.
the guy called ronaldo fat, and kept sayin we need u morientes hehe.
then ronaldo got mad, and went to fight, but the security managed to stop the confusion.
rockykabir
hello
Boro said:
Is this the inquest about the mystery "agreement" between the old spanish government and perez?
I hope Real goes down :twisted: :twisted:
- Thread starter
- #107
B
Boro
Guest
rockykabir said:
Lol nah someone opened a new thread earlier titled "Real Mardid CF Inquest" so i locked it and suggested they do it in here. Obviously they aint so arsed!
Edmundo 22
League 1
- 11 November 2003
Boro said:
no probs , yeah i think Queiroz is the culprit cos he chooses the formation, lineup/subs and teams mentality. i will coach them for an agreed fee
or use Del Bosque he is better for the teams mentality and makes better lineups. and im sure after the last loss in CL under Del Bosque he wud of learned some lesson, he has won CL and La Liga b4 with Real CF too. it aint gunna happen but i think Raul shud play less of a role and Solari more of 1. Raul wud be an excellent sub. When Solari plays he really takes alot of pressure off the other galactico's cos he is a very good attacker. Raul does too but not as much for his postion, he lacks pace and balance.
Queiroz's formations IMO have been ok but not great. his lineup's have been ok but not good, Cambiasso is a proven DMF or even SB, Meija looked outta of his class but he did very well.
the squad is small, but they still have the highest quality in attack and Real CF have some good defenders too..R.Carlos, Salgado, Helguera.
cigol
League 1
- 14 August 2003
Helguera is really a midfielder and Cambiasso is on his way out so you don't want to rely on him.
They can't not play Raul lol... nor as a super-sub as he doesn't have that spark at the moment to warrant it.
Besides, right now squad depth is the problem and if they always play solari from the off - who is going to come on when things are looking bleak?
There isn't anybody.
Perez is the culprit, he's too preoccupied with image that he hasn't noticed Real Madrids has been sinking down the drain in the past couple of years.
they still have some of the finest quality attackers in the world, figo is the only one looking remotely tired as well... so it's not curtains for the club.
They can't not play Raul lol... nor as a super-sub as he doesn't have that spark at the moment to warrant it.
Besides, right now squad depth is the problem and if they always play solari from the off - who is going to come on when things are looking bleak?
There isn't anybody.
Perez is the culprit, he's too preoccupied with image that he hasn't noticed Real Madrids has been sinking down the drain in the past couple of years.
they still have some of the finest quality attackers in the world, figo is the only one looking remotely tired as well... so it's not curtains for the club.
Edmundo 22
League 1
- 11 November 2003
yes i see ur point , i didnt know perez was undermining the team so much.. they must be low on funds.. especially with paychecks that they got atm ?
they should be able to afford some good defenders and defensive midfielders .. surely..
still im not a big fan of queiroz but he has done ok ...istill prefer del bosque
they should be able to afford some good defenders and defensive midfielders .. surely..
still im not a big fan of queiroz but he has done ok ...istill prefer del bosque
cigol
League 1
- 14 August 2003
yes everyone would prefer Del Bosque but it will never happen, should never of been let go in the first place really - even Hierro could of stayed on despite being a liability.
Caused upset when those two left.
I read now that RM are thinking about bring Eto back (own 50% I believe) and looking at Xavi for defensive midfield duty.
Caused upset when those two left.
I read now that RM are thinking about bring Eto back (own 50% I believe) and looking at Xavi for defensive midfield duty.
Mack
Champions League
in my own opinion raul has been very poor this season and they also banked on portio having a season like last year, that hasnt happened so solari has been there only other good attacking option but i remember two games this year when he played left back! squad depth is the biggest problem by far there just lucky they havnt had any long term injury problems this year and that beckham has played chief tackler well!
Well Real are a goal down again, this time at home to Osasuna.
It's still in the first half, can they turn it around as they have done quite often, or will they draw or lose, giving Valencia a sneaking chance at the title.
Valencia would be two points ahead if Real lose, one point if Real draw
It's still in the first half, can they turn it around as they have done quite often, or will they draw or lose, giving Valencia a sneaking chance at the title.
Valencia would be two points ahead if Real lose, one point if Real draw
Metallica
Whoosh... Bullshit!
- 20 August 2003
i wonder whos in the real line up tonight
there defence as of late is shocking, reminding me of man utd's a while back
there defence as of late is shocking, reminding me of man utd's a while back
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
3-0 to Osasuna
Again yet agian each goal was condeded with a high ball into the box
Again yet agian each goal was condeded with a high ball into the box
Metallica
Whoosh... Bullshit!
- 20 August 2003
is there midfield and attack just the usual though ?
did ronaldos injury look bad ?
by the way Coopz im lovin ur sig u cant beat Ricky Gervais phrases
did ronaldos injury look bad ?
by the way Coopz im lovin ur sig u cant beat Ricky Gervais phrases
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
There Midfield looked tired, Only beckham did the leg work really but he was fresh and he nearly scored from the halfway line and Raul upfront alone is a bad idea being in the form that hes in.
Real had a few chances but Osasuna took theres
Ronaldo just ran to get the ball towards the corner flag and just pulled up after he won the corner.
I was thinking of changing the sig because he said that quite a while ago now but im outta material atm
and Raul upfront alone is a bad idea being in the form that hes in.Real had a few chances but Osasuna took theres
Ronaldo just ran to get the ball towards the corner flag and just pulled up after he won the corner.
I was thinking of changing the sig because he said that quite a while ago now but im outta material atm
- Thread starter
- #120
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Lionheart
Guest
Real lost for the first time this season at home. Hope this is not an indication of what to come. Real have a tough uphill battle from now on, especially with a derby against Atletico next week at the Calderon, hosting Barcelona, visiting La Coruna, and topping the season off with a game at the Bernabeu against Real Sociedad.