firstly, yes, pes5 is the best footy game we have, don't get me wrong, i like the game, but its no longer as fun as it used to be, they need to make some big changes for once, not just tiny ones, it has so many flaws its unreal, here are some of my pet hates; 1) the refs - ok, they give to many fouls, i can live with that, its kinda realistic, what i can't live with is the sheer lack of f*cking cards, ive only ever seen 1 red card in the whole time ive being playing PES5, and its damn hard to even get a yellow, its a joke. 2) the controls - about as responsive as drunk man in a coma, i think its got worse since last years version, the players are as nimble as a rock and control the ball like a 5-a-side OAP side, its appauling. 3) the movement - since when can players only move in 8 directions with a ball? its deliberatly setup that way to save them from having to make more advanced game mechanics, theres no 'just avoiding a tackle' in this game, its move 1 of 8 directions and hope they didn't choose the same one, pathetic. 4) the ai - stupider than a coconut, sure they make intelligent runs, trouble is, usually before you even have the ball, so when you finally can pass, they are 2 miles offside and your defenders love to run away from the action, great work. 5) passing - why is it you can only pass infront of a player, why can't i decide what i want my player to do? i want control of my team, i don't always want to run forward, i don't always want to be pressure insanely by the computer, i want to be able to pass it around to make space, not be forced to pass up field constantly. please god konami, in the next gen installment, make this game responsive, fair and intelligent, i wouldn't care if it had graphics like the back end of a horse, aslong as they actually bothered to change the game mechanics, just for once. ps the reason im only posting this now, is because ive been playing it since it came out, ive played it long enough now to rant fairly about the game, no rushed judgements from just playing the demo or full game for a week.