PES 2019 Tactics Discussion & Real Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer' started by klashman69, 5 September 2018.

  1. frolic99

    frolic99 League 2

    24 March 2010
    Chelsea
    I want to apply the 32 teams, but do they still use the same tactics from the World Cup or there are a lot difference now?
     
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  2. Mozi

    Mozi Non-League

    12 October 2018
    we neet the ligue a and the best of europ ( CL and Europe League ) :-(
    klashmann please give us the rest :D
     
  3. fifacana

    fifacana League 2

    29 September 2013
    FANTASTICHY MY MAN!
     
  4. paulw

    paulw Kopking1

    26 August 2012
    England
    Liverpool
    Klashmann, love your tactics, so just wondered when we might get next set?
     
  5. tobi

    tobi "Pull up from 30!"

    5 August 2005
    Teaching the PHX Suns the 2 min drill...
    Spurs, Suns and Cowboys
    It's taken me a long time but I've finally got a Fluid Formation that works with Spurs in a PES game, one that also gets the best out of Harry Kane and gets players closer to him.

    I'll post it later when I get home.

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    Attacking Instruction:
    Possession
    Short Pass
    Centre (depends how the game flows)
    Flexible
    Support Range = 5

    Defensive Instruction:
    Frontline Pressure
    Wide
    Conservative
    Defensive Line & Compactness = 6

    No Advanced Instructions, I use the Attack & Defensive levels.

    The system can easily be tweaked:

    - Lamela playing from the right as another playmaker.
    - Son as striker, Kane as a No. 10 and one of Eriksen, Dele or Lucas from the left.
    - Dele pushed up to SS whilst in possession.
    - Lucas Moura pushed to a RWF whilst in possession.
    - Drop Eriksen back to CM, Lamela as a No.10 and Dele or Lucas on/from the right.
    - Dembele for possession or Sissoko to drive forward and provide much needed energy to a one paced centre midfield.
    - I want to use Winks more but they haven't updated his stats and he loses the ball easily online.
     
    Last edited: 17 December 2018
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  6. frolic99

    frolic99 League 2

    24 March 2010
    Chelsea
    Nice work men. Is this Tottenham formation in IRL?
     
  7. tobi

    tobi "Pull up from 30!"

    5 August 2005
    Teaching the PHX Suns the 2 min drill...
    Spurs, Suns and Cowboys
    When Son plays from the left, it's very similar.

    It depends on the opposition, against Everton they used a diamond with Eriksen in CM and Winks at the base.
     
  8. Antoine

    Antoine League 2

    28 September 2016
    Been trying these, thanks klashmen. They definitely breathe life to the pitch.

    However is their anymore recommendations people can give to liven up the bland AI? The attacking patterns are still a bit meh. I dunno whether its because all the shooting seems same that I'm having difficulties. You never see deft chips, outside of the boot shots, Long range shots, little side foot finishes etc. Its all centre of goal and blasting it hard as possible.
     
  9. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Nice work Tobi,

    Antoine, the adaptive AI i think is the factor here. the AI seem to heavily favour this power shot first time into the top corner however when that dosen't work then the variety comes out, so it's annoying however hasan't really spoiled the game for me.

    really sorry guys i worked too hard over Christmas, i feel burnt out.

    Here is Best of Europe anyway, a few teams i deliberately missed out where Monaco and Fenebache as they are a car crash this season and both seem to be using different system every week as their manager/managers struggle to find solutions.

    https://klashman69.blogspot.com/2019/01/pes-2019-best-of-european-team-tactics.html

    King Henry in particular seems to be using a different formation every week
     
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  10. Lord Alex

    Lord Alex Non-League

    15 September 2018
    Hello Klashman69!
    Could you do Zeman's tactics?
    4-3-3 Offensive.

    I've already asked you but I'll try again because I'd really like to play in Pes 2019 with this tactic.
     
  11. Lord Alex

    Lord Alex Non-League

    15 September 2018
  12. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Hi, i'll upload tomorrow something for you to try.

    I applied this to Leeds United and using 'Coach Mode' won 7-2 being 5-0 in the first half vs Metz who had the crap default Konami tactic.

    Settings where:
    Counter attack
    Short Pass
    Wide
    Flexable
    4

    Frontline Pressure
    Centre
    Aggressive
    10
    7

    Attacking:
    Tiki-Taki ( to create the triangle passing out wide with the midfield three joining in appropriatley
    Centering Targets

    Defensive:
    Gergenpress

    I didn't actually use fluid formation, just a standard 4-3-3 with both wide players set to 'SS' instead of 'WMF' This is to influence the full backs to create the width and the opposite 'ss' to always attack the box when the ball is on the other flank.
     
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  13. Lord Alex

    Lord Alex Non-League

    15 September 2018
    I look forward to the ultimate tactics, with the fluid form.
    Just a question, do you think Tiki Taka's tactics must be used with Zeman's game?
    When he was training the Tiki Taka he had not yet been invented.
    Thanks Klashman69 ^ _ ^
     
  14. Ribas2810

    Ribas2810 League 1

    30 November 2010
    Italy
    FC Juventus

    Contropiede tutta la vita...


    Counter attack for Zeman's tactic
     
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  15. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Tiki-Taka has been around for decades, Total football with Rinus Michels spawned that, its triangle passing which i noticed with Zemans' tactics there was a clear emphasis to keep the ball between a triangle of players in certain zones specifically out wide. Tiki-Taka is just a modern interpretation.
     
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  16. Lord Alex

    Lord Alex Non-League

    15 September 2018
    I understand, thanks for the accurate explanation. How do you plan to proceed to overlay the fullbacks?
    If you use "Full Backs" the median moves back. This is not true to Zeman as the median in his game poses forward.
    And what about the breadth of play? Do you plan to use the tactics that widen the players?
     
  17. Ribas2810

    Ribas2810 League 1

    30 November 2010
    Italy
    FC Juventus

    The famous "Total football"
     
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  18. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    I would have to use fluid formation and use the same method of making the full backs into wide midfielders, wont move them up too far but enough to create the aggressive fullback effect.

    I find this also always makes the teams play wide.
     
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  19. Lord Alex

    Lord Alex Non-League

    15 September 2018
    ok Klashman, I trust your genius!
    Last question, will you use short or long pass?
    Some argue that Zeman favors the short, others argue that he favors the long.
    I'm sure your settings will dissolve this doubt: D
     
  20. ldleon

    ldleon Conference

    10 October 2018
    Are these the actual real tactics for Leeds United? I know Bielsa likes a 4-1-4-1 with high defensive line..thanks
     
  21. Rodchenko

    Rodchenko League 1

    12 November 2009
    Berlin, Germany
    FC Bayern
    Has anybody got a good tactics set against Leicester? I am playing United in ML on Superstar (TS 96) and this team really pisses me off. Vardy got to be the single most overpowered player in this game.

    Normally I would go for 4-3-3 with counter attack, long ball, „hug the touchline“ and perhaps a false 9 for Lukaku, but I just can‘t get into their box and whenever I lose the ball Vardy appears out of thin air and runs circles around my defence. Frustrating.
     
  22. Lami

    Lami Niche Football

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    Yo @klashman69

    Thanks for your efforts. Are you Premier league tactics up to date?
     
  23. MartanCJ

    MartanCJ Conference

    21 July 2006
    Prague
    Bohemians Prague
    Hi, I have question regarding formation with 5 defenders with 2 attacking wing backs high at pitch. Something similliar what occasionaly plays Tottenham.

    Is it better to make these wing backs a side middfielders or wing backs? I saw few community made formations with wing backs beying deployed as side middfielders.

    Thanks for answer
     
  24. roha akistamski

    roha akistamski Non-League

    8 November 2018
    It's a great deal of work!
    There's been a lot of turbulence in the EPL lately, and I wonder if there are any updates to it later.
     
  25. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    I should, although i must admit my malaise and disdain for the modern game is getting worse by the week.
     
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  26. Hels

    Hels League 1

    13 October 2018
    Any updated tactics for La Liga? Also interested in Premier, Serie A, French League, etc.
     

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