PES 2019 Tactics Discussion & Real Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer' started by klashman69, 5 September 2018.

  1. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Yeah, done both already. check my site and twitter for all 32 world cup teams done.

    Also i will post indepth regarding some classic national teams i have done.
     
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  2. loco

    loco NINJA

    12 December 2002
    Dreamland
    Superb! Thanks.

    Could I request one specific team for classics? :

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  3. Barca_Fan13

    Barca_Fan13 League 1

    1 December 2007
    F.C. Barcelona
    What difficulty should I be playing on to get the most out of the AI and tactics? I remember previously @klashman69 you recommended playing on 'professional' to get the most balanced gameplay. Does this still hold true in 19?
     
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  4. incas36

    incas36 Champions League

    4 November 2015
    Personally I think that Professional is still the most balanced level of this pes. Unfortunately for most this level is too easy and leveling up you meet a lot of scripts and forcing that ruin the enjoyment.
     
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  5. rockstrongo

    rockstrongo International

    25 August 2006
    Sweden
    Hammarby
    My experience with professional is that it dumbs down your players,I see more catch up and strange behaviour(passing shooting) from my players on that level than TP.
    I'd recomend TP,plays better and more "fair"
    You'll have scripting on every difficulty though
     
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  6. slamsoze

    slamsoze Championship

    28 September 2010
    For me this joke with scripting should be over since last year.The only result is rendering one level bearable “TopP” and one unplayable “SuperS”.I don’t even notice the Legend difficulty as I didn’t even touched it even for exhibition match.So all this results 2018 and 2019 with the last 2,5 modes unplayable, 0,5 cause TopPlayer becomes unplayable only from time to time.The best they could do is bring back the AI scripting from PES 2017 which even in superstar was 100% playable with some broken matches only rival/UCL semifinals and was totally more fair.
    The only result from last year was to make people stop playing ML in superstar in 18&19,unless you like the death match/survival mode that every match becomes.
     
  7. rockstrongo

    rockstrongo International

    25 August 2006
    Sweden
    Hammarby
    It's really strange with difficulty levels.
    It should really be just one level offline,with sliders for passing/shooting/aggression etc.
    I use to play SS on Pes 16/17,but switched to TP when revisiting 17,and also for 18.
    To me that's the most enjoyable difficulty,there's obviously scripting there to,like every sports game,but with growing TS it's manageable.

    I think the CPU plays the best on professional,but your own players best on TP/SS.
    For the first time in a long time I've had big wins on Pes when I started Pes 19.
    The CPU were dangerous,but since you can control players/ball so well on 19,I smashed Bologna 4-0 just a moment ago.
    I never had those kinda games on neither Pes 13-15-16-18
    I'm acctually enjoying 19 right now.
    The AI bug is not good,but since the control on Pes 19 is so good,it's hard playing any other game, especially on manual
     
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  8. Barca_Fan13

    Barca_Fan13 League 1

    1 December 2007
    F.C. Barcelona
    @klashman69 are these tactics already in Pesuniverse's V2 OF?
     
  9. sanji

    sanji League 2

    12 December 2016
    France
    Olympique Lyonnais
    hi everyone, still havent bought the game. I didnt know the IA used Adv Tactics you edit them with, but that's a game changer to me, and my biggest gripe last year. Will they still use others automatically? depending on your style, like the defense always on the backfoot even for top teams? that used to suck.

    Do fullbacks behave more like true fullbacks? Is the game still split in two, with massive free space in the middle? Can you edit att/def level, and is it still on orange att/blue def for most teams, leading to end to end style and no slow build up? and a lack of pressure once they lose the ball? Is gengenpress unusable due to the revamp of stamina, considering last year it still pumped the stamina of everyone way too fast? could be good to set the triggers for all advanced tactics manually, cos i know they have some triggers (for example when they're behind the score, when you use plenty of through balls, etc)

    is there still red level with a defender fucking around high up the pitch in every KO game after the 75' ? This made Knockout games too easy to me, i could counter the fuck out of their fucked up defensive shape, and the CB playing high up the pitch wouldn't even track back.

    Is the defense still backtracking like crazy and following the attackers runs instead of playing the offside trap?
     
  10. Ribas2810

    Ribas2810 League 1

    30 November 2010
    Italy
    FC Juventus
    @klashman69


    Hi pal,do you have notice that even if you change tactics,the Cpu sometimes switch with our tactics to activate their tactics?
     
  11. theelix1

    theelix1 Non-League

    1 October 2018
    Really, this is lovely game.
     
  12. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Nope, hopefully bundesliga will be in V3 but not yet for other teams
     
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  13. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    what do you mean?
     
  14. tomj

    tomj League 1

    31 January 2017
    England
    Premier League tactics work great @klashman69 - had a few games against Man Utd now as varying teams and each game they seem to have this odd sheltered nature to how they play. They'll start defensive, suddenly have a full press then withdraw and sit deep. Feels eerily similar to how they're playing currently under Mourinho with no defined style.

    Likewise Tottenham and Liverpool both seem really accurate - definitely made the game a lot more varied! Admittedly I'm only playing in exhibition matches currently (waiting for AI patch before starting ML or League) but the tactics are wonderful - massively appreciate all the effort you put in.
     
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  15. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Thank you man. I appreciate this. I have Bundesliga done and released soon, i'll look at getting PSG and another 8-9 Ligue 1 teams done in the next week or so.

    Here is some better news, I can add defensive strategies to everyone and the AI will use them dynamically so i can accurately do how City played yesterday, a more conservative tiki-taka compared to normal along with adding more difficulty to the game.
     
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  16. naporsocapo

    naporsocapo Non-League

    9 July 2005
    Interesting to hear. In Pes 2018 the AI only changed to 70 minutes according to the result.
    Does the AI sometimes use the third tactic "custom" or not?
     
  17. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Nah the AI never ever uses the custom tactic. they use the defensive one if you set it on to 'auto change preset tactics'

    It should be like in 2015 where the team changes depending on either winning or playing vs a far stronger team.
     
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  18. Mozi

    Mozi Non-League

    12 October 2018
    what is with the Bundesliga and the ligue a ?
    Do you want to create this ?
     
  19. paulw

    paulw Kopking1

    26 August 2012
    England
    Liverpool
    Tactics make a real difference thank you. Any update on bundesliga?
     
  20. Mozi

    Mozi Non-League

    12 October 2018
    he said to mee, he want to upload the tactics soon.
     
  21. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
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  22. Mozi

    Mozi Non-League

    12 October 2018
    great work klashman !!

    League a ( France ) is coming too and the best of europe ( CL ) ?
     
  23. aaronman

    aaronman Non-League

    28 May 2005
    Started adding these in my game. Will I need to restart ML in order to see teams adopt these tactics in-game?
     
  24. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies Chief PESsimist Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Pretty certain you do.
     
  25. aaronman

    aaronman Non-League

    28 May 2005
    Boo. Can definitely tell the difference between teams so I guess it's worth it. Will do rest of the teams and start over. :TU:
     
  26. julien garnier

    julien garnier League 2

    11 October 2018
    hi klashman , thanks for those greats tactics , the 4-2-3-1 of tottenham is really well shaped , but i wanted to know if you have made the 3-4-2-1 from pochettino too ? +
     
  27. klashman69

    klashman69 Fight the Power!

    28 November 2007
    I Travel.
    Betis have a shape like this so check their formation out. Two attacking mids either side of a striker
     
  28. Semifor

    Semifor Osvaldo: Festival and Beer overa a pro Career!

    9 December 2014
    Hey guys, I hope somebody can help me. I searched the internet for solutions but didn't find any.

    I wanted to apply Klashmans tactics in Editing Mode. But every time, when I set up the players as recommended and switch between the formations in the menu (kick off, possession, without ball), it messes up some players position. For example the left wing is suddenly central midfielder after that. So that my tactics board never looks like Clashman recommended.

    Any suggestions/solutions?

    Cheers,

    Semifor
     
  29. julien garnier

    julien garnier League 2

    11 October 2018
    thanks for your answer dude , but betis havent rlly a fluid formation , as tottenham 3-4-2-1 becomes a 3-4-3 in attack and maybe back when out of possession , i wanted to know if you think on his 3-4-2-1 , pochettino has kept same attack/defense instructions than their 4-2-3-1 you made
     
  30. Hels

    Hels League 2

    13 October 2018
    Klashman69, having an obvious problem here. Downloadings resets the tactis of the team, and I am having to do this manually, which obiusly means a lot of time redoing the tactics. Is there any way to arrange this? Or at least any way of making this automatically instead of having to tweak all manually? Thanks in advance.
     

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