PES 2019 Discussion Thread (PS4, XB1)

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer' started by Lami, 28 August 2018.

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  1. Dennis_87

    Dennis_87 Championship

    27 September 2017
    Yeah this shit is ridiculous.
    The game still has big enough clipping issues.
    At least it's not noticable in live gameplay but you can clearly see it after in replay.
    Feet going in opponents heads and bodies in collisions and shit..it's mental.
    Fifa also has these issues and some even worse where you try to shoot and players leg pass through the other leg like it's not even there.
    I think it's less of a scripting issue but more of an abscence of a correct collision system issue and being unable to detect every little collision between bodies and ball.Because if it was pure scripting it could still pass the ball above your players' head and score if it wanted.
    I don't know why both companies struggle so much to eliminate clipping.Maybe they just don't care enough or maybe it's not that easy to do as we may think.
    But i'm waiting for years now to see improvement in that aspect and it's still the same shit.
     
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  2. rockstrongo

    rockstrongo World Cup Winner

    25 August 2006
    Sweden
    Hammarby
    Almost threw out my Xbox after this!
    Screenshot_20190414-192544.jpg

    If you start to watch replays (which I've done) you'll see an insane amount of cheating from the CPU on both Pes and fifa.
     
  3. Dennis_87

    Dennis_87 Championship

    27 September 2017
    The poor guy.
    Such a violation of the private parts.
    This is almost x-rated 18+ only shit lol.
     
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  4. rockstrongo

    rockstrongo World Cup Winner

    25 August 2006
    Sweden
    Hammarby
    Bet there's a section for it on Pornhub:)
     
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  5. Lami

    Lami Niche Football

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    Wow.
     
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  6. Alx1234

    Alx1234 Championship

    26 July 2018
    Meh. This is normal.

    If you play enough MyClub, you grow a football in your pants.

    Depending on how long you play you will be rewarded with a white, bronze, silver, gold or black ball.

    Needless to say I have black ball.

    Smells a bit but it was worth it.
     
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  7. vxcmplx

    vxcmplx League 1

    11 May 2011
    Face physics not the same as ball physics :OT::LMAO:


    Time for this PES14 vid again. Best collision system. It detects every little nick and stomp. All these were yellow cards. First one was a red. That's why it was shown in the replay.

    I wish they brought it back. It was harsh, but it made u think about how to approach the guy and steal the ball without slamming the body. And what angle to enter into the challenge.

    I don't remember any other years where challenges like these are even registered. Now the player just hops over it automatically and loses balance a bit. A foul is a foul, defending/tracking/enforcing should make u feel on the edge

     
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  8. Rodchenko

    Rodchenko Championship

    12 November 2009
    Berlin, Germany
    FC Bayern
    Funny thing, on instant-gaming a Steam code for PES 2017 sells at 19 Euro something, one for 2019 only at around 8 Euro. Supply and demand, I guess.

    After all your praise I bought it and had a (very quick) try this morning. It felt good though what turned me off a bit was the "wet pitch effect", ground passes unnaturally slowing down at the end as if they hit a puddle (which FIFA suffers badly from in this years version). As @Chris Davies mentioned earlier the ball physics in 19 are simply in a class of their own.
     
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  9. Emroth

    Emroth Champions League

    18 August 2018
    Ireland
    True. I had same initial shock. But that feeling will go away soon enough and will be replaced will a lot of good stuff that you havent noticed yet.
     
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  10. fregen

    fregen Peking

    31 January 2006
    Sweden
    IFK Norrköping
    Have'nt played the game since the DLC. Don't miss it one bit.

    So, when is the first news about 2020 coming? What is Bhatti up to? I think I'm still blocked since a couple of years (I asked why they couldn't update the brazilian teams. He didn't answer. I wondered why he didn't answer such a easy question. BLOCKED).

    And Asim, is he the pr- guy? Found it weird that he stopped talking PES on his Twitter so I unfollowed.
     
  11. Emroth

    Emroth Champions League

    18 August 2018
    Ireland
    Quiet on both fronts so far. Lads didnt say anything Pes related for ages. They're probably playing Fifa. :LOL:
     
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  12. Lami

    Lami Niche Football

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    Probably sent to manage Pachinkos with Seabass.
     
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  13. Placebo

    Placebo Ԁlɐɔǝqo

    3 May 2003
    La Manga Del Mar Menor, Spain.
    Sheffield Wednesday
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  14. hitmanuk

    hitmanuk International

    23 October 2002
    uk
    I've just tried again for one last go before it's sold. Italian match actually felt OK . I lost 2 nil on top player but wasn't bad. Then I played Liverpool v arsenal. Lost 4 nil. First goal the striker was through on goal 50 50 with keeper ball went through Alison hand on the floor (tried to save replay I'll put it up if it worked) then strikers leg went through alissons shoulder to tap in empty net. No wonder there's no fouls. Next 3 goals were all 6 yard tap ins from a low cross
     
  15. fefepes

    fefepes League 2

    2 July 2018
    local multiplayer is just shit compared to the beta in 2017 and demo in 2018. just feels like its watered down in full release. never quite feel 100% in control
     
  16. kernowdoc

    kernowdoc Court In Session...

    13 November 2011
    Green Army
    Argyle
    I can't wait for the bit again when he says "we've been listening to the fans......"
     
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  17. real022

    real022 Conference

    22 October 2016
    After the last update I feel like it is pointless to move players in defense without use of R1+R2.
    The predefined path it is so strong to pull selected player in worst possible direction.
     
  18. TheGoodOldDays

    TheGoodOldDays League 2

    19 November 2016
    2014 was, I suspect, the last ever year where PES still had the remote prospect of becoming a football game acceptable for the decade it happens to be released in.

    The abandonment of that nucleus of a game was like abandoning a life raft after miraculously surviving a plane ditching in the ocean.

    I guess some people are still holding onto the hope for the coming next generation, but the reality is you could give them any set of tools at this point and the outcome would still be substandard in all manner of ways, it has been clear for some time the problems run far deeper than engine x or engine y.
     
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  19. rockstrongo

    rockstrongo World Cup Winner

    25 August 2006
    Sweden
    Hammarby
    It's a free to play Myclub game within 5 years!
    Not a relevant offline game anymore
     
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  20. Lami

    Lami Niche Football

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    Probably been listening to these all along.

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Lami

    Lami Niche Football

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
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  22. saintric

    saintric Premiership

    9 October 2007
    my biggest hope for the series is they accidentally stumble upon genius and make a really solid game by sheer luck of everything coming together at once much like Leicester city 15/16 only with slightly higher odds of it happening
     
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  23. Alx1234

    Alx1234 Championship

    26 July 2018
    ANyone listening to the spurs man city CL game on right now. 5 goals in the first 20mins.

    If anyone wants to know what PES commentary should be like, tune in to BBC Radio 5 live right now.

    Edit : Wow!
     
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  24. real022

    real022 Conference

    22 October 2016
    Own goal 60m..scissors :)

     
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  25. hitmanuk

    hitmanuk International

    23 October 2002
    uk
    Small update out
     
  26. Rodchenko

    Rodchenko Championship

    12 November 2009
    Berlin, Germany
    FC Bayern
    It will be interesting to see how, if at all, PES 20 will deal with VAR. Since the refs and linesmen are always right in PES, even when a player is offside by half a millimeter, VAR in PES is kind of a mute point. They would have spotted Agueros offside right away
     
  27. Alx1234

    Alx1234 Championship

    26 July 2018
    If PES was actually a properly done game capable of esport status, I'd welcome such details.

    As it is though, PES has so much other stuff it needs to correct before introducing intricate details like VAR.

    Who knows? Konami could do a deal with Sony on the condition that they get a return for future PS4 controller sales. After all, its no longer about gamesmanship. Its business.
     
  28. Isslander

    Isslander Gordon's alive!

    3 August 2003
    Iceland
    Liverpool
    Yeah Put VAR in there, would add a new and interesting spin on last minute goals in local multilayer.
    And have it realistic as well, at least a minute for the ref to decide
     
  29. Rodchenko

    Rodchenko Championship

    12 November 2009
    Berlin, Germany
    FC Bayern
    Essentially it would require their AI to display a certain level of “human error”, so that here and there an offside call would have to be corrected.

    I don’t see this happening (that they code “errors” into their AI)
     
  30. Emroth

    Emroth Champions League

    18 August 2018
    Ireland
    There is much bigger chance for VAR in FIFA. It will take Konami 20 years to even consider something like this.

    Anyways, hows gameplay post little update?
    As far as I remember, DP4 built a ground for disaster but it was small update shortly after that broke the whole thing.
    Would be nice if this time small update fixed few things here and there..
     

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