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PES 2018 PS4 full game (with patch version 1.01) impressions

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer' started by DarthKebab, 11 September 2017.

  1. DarthKebab

    DarthKebab Fully Assisted Noob

    11 May 2008
    I hated the demo, the amount of space that was left unmarked and unchallenged was awful and well known about, the shooting was too fast and accurate and unsatisfying, I think it was actually a huge mistake to release the demo in that state.

    When I first got the game I put it on Superstar and -1 and to be honest I wasn't happy when I started playing exhibition games, I easily won using Everton my first game and playing the same way I did play 2017, got a goal from a cross near post and the keeper dived under Lukaku's volley, to be honest I almost put it down there and forgot about it.

    Then I started a Champions League on superstar using Ajax, didn't want an elite team just a team I knew a little about the players (transfer weren't updated yet so they still had some good pace up front), turned off advanced instructions and turned on Fluid Formation and man was it tough, I didn't even qualify in the end.

    Bad news is I believe pace has increased since the beta/demo and its noticeable around 10%.

    Good news is shooting has been pared back and while I don't think it is contextual enough and using the correct foot enough, the speed of the shots has been decreased, this makes long rangers less likely to trouble the keeper as mostly if the shots are on target they will stand and catch them, around the edge of the box though if you shoot low they do have a tendency to push the ball back into the path of a forward/defender rather than to the side, but the big difference is inside the box where it doesn't feel certain a one on one will be a goal, I need more time with the game to try and judge it fully but after 30 or so games its good.

    I would say R2 shooting is not effective so far, tried a few shots and not noticed much bend, just feels like a weak shot, might be more effective in one on ones but I have trouble getting them.

    The space issue is massively improved in a competitive game, ive tried chipped through balls to LWF/RWF and each time they are tracked back (sometimes not when breaking from a corner if you can get a good clearance) for an easy interception, marking seems tight in general and sprinting through the midfield has not been possible for me like it was previously.

    Passing is better than the demo but not sure if its the same as the beta, the beta was a slower game so its difficult to compare, I know interceptions happen a lot more and you sometimes do have to try manoeuvre your player to the ball to stop an interception, I would both me and the CPU average about 80% successful passes per game, it does seem weightier and definitely much more so than the demo, this is using PA1.

    My biggest hate is the crossing, I hate to use it, not because its too effective but because its a straight arrow in the middle, whenever I cross now I use L1 because it feels like a more realistic trajectory and outcome, why isn't single tap for far post, double tap for near post and triple for ground ball not an option anymore, this newer way of crossing feels based on how long you can hold the button down for rather than a stat based system, needs overhauling massively.

    Last point is variety, I started using Ajax in a Champions league competition and they felt good to control though a little lightweight, most of my chances were created from Klaasen doing through balls to Dolberg who is quite strong.

    Playing as Monaco in Champions League was a different story, they are strong, athletic and running from deep with Mbappe was quite satisfying.

    Then I started a Master with Bordeaux and tried the new feature I believe is Challenge mode, you basically have a chairman who is a lot more strict now and can allegedly sack you, I have won one game in seven but enjoying the challenge, its nice playing with a good passer like Toulalan and feels like stats are actually counting, they have a front three but never feel overpower like they did on previous games, its not easy to find people in space which I like and the AI can be very efficient going forward and punishing gaps you leave.

    Not claiming to be the best player but dribbling is not a OP as it was last year, I have been stopped quite a lot from cutting inside for an easy shot, not one to try the skills as I can never get the timing right to be effective so cannot comment on how effective those are, I will leave that to better players to comment on.

    Overall it needs work which I don't think will improve with patches this year, the crossing especially and the shooting despite being toned down needs work on variation and context, they are the kind of fundamentals which stop this game from being good as it is to very good.
     
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  2. DarthKebab

    DarthKebab Fully Assisted Noob

    11 May 2008
    Ok, now I wrote all that then tried Top Player instead of Superstar, completely different game with no AI pressure, easy through ball spamming, ability to sprint all the way to from defence to attack, it is awful, it's like a training mode.

    Do not play this game under superstar level and this is from someone who isn't good at the game at all.
     
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  3. kilay

    kilay International

    11 November 2016
  4. manmachine

    manmachine Conference

    22 June 2008
    You can unlock an extra difficulty level if you get enough wins on superstar I think. Let us know how that feels if you try it. So top player is the new "beginner" level now? wtf, lol

    What match length are you using, and do you think scorelines are too big? (that's a big question for me this year).
    Also are you getting any midfield play on superstar or is it still mostly end to end but harder simply because of more pressing/better tracking on the final third of the pitch?
     
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  5. DarthKebab

    DarthKebab Fully Assisted Noob

    11 May 2008
    Just using 10 min matches, I would say when the AI has the ball in your final third it's hard to defend, just try to apply pressure and hope they mess up.

    When attacking it's more trying to play one touch to create chances, I'm sure that will improve in time
     
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  6. DarthKebab

    DarthKebab Fully Assisted Noob

    11 May 2008
    Btw I unlocked Legend difficulty but I'm not going anywhere near it yet
     
  7. Onimusha78

    Onimusha78 League 2

    4 September 2013
    Any word if ML regens are still in? Longevity of the mode is pretty much ruined by those stupid things
     
  8. DarthKebab

    DarthKebab Fully Assisted Noob

    11 May 2008
    Still in first season can't answer that one
     
  9. Onimusha78

    Onimusha78 League 2

    4 September 2013
    Alright no worries
     
  10. Jimi_Zuko

    Jimi_Zuko Jimi Zuko

    20 January 2003
    Melbourne
    liverpool
    Is the game region free this year
     
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  11. Jimi_Zuko

    Jimi_Zuko Jimi Zuko

    20 January 2003
    Melbourne
    liverpool
    Also do u feel a noticeable difference with shoot/pass between players also do those areas feel heavier than demo
     
  12. Energia

    Energia Premiership

    22 December 2003
    What platform do you are speacking for? PS4?

    Please edit The title of this thread with the plattform you use
     
  13. Lami

    Lami Niche Football Staff

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    Done.
     
  14. PESBUL

    PESBUL League 1

    11 June 2016
    What about this co-op modes ? Can you play MyClub 3v3 / 2vs2 ?
     
  15. guru83

    guru83 League 1

    8 August 2017
    I was just warming to the demo again as well :(

    thanks for feedback Dark kebab
     
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  16. guru83

    guru83 League 1

    8 August 2017
    Edit: sorry....darth kebab
     
  17. kilay

    kilay International

    11 November 2016
    BAL with Icardi (lang ITA)

     
  18. kilay

    kilay International

    11 November 2016
    Some detail about ML (really few is changed) (Italian Language)
    Anyway better than nothing , but the fee to buy out a player on loan seems totally wrong (e.g. 20 M for Palacio :BLINK: ) too much similar to the release fee of a better player (Morata 23 M )
    :( not happy of that

     
  19. DarthKebab

    DarthKebab Fully Assisted Noob

    11 May 2008
    Sad to hear the guy from WENB didn't like the slower paced shots in his review, with the correct animations and correct contextual situations it could be amazing, hope konami don't go back to the demo shots
     
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  20. Daisuk

    Daisuk Yiddo

    22 October 2002
    Oslo, Norway
    Tottenham Hotspur
    Agree on this. I've been playing the demo on Professional full manual, but haven't really enjoyed it. Upped the difficulty to Superstar (and with level 1 pass assistance) and enjoying it a LOT more. Definitely feels like a good old PES game to me.

    How does ML play this year? Still a lot of AI cheating if you're in too good of a form?
     
  21. DarthKebab

    DarthKebab Fully Assisted Noob

    11 May 2008
    Well yeah if you score you make the AI angry and they feel unstoppable
     
  22. Whistle

    Whistle Premiership

    18 January 2003
    Get the game yet, the interface, edit mode, seems looked like PES2017,
    just played 2 games on professional, and using the slowest game speed, hum, no surprise, no disappoint...

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    Last edited: 12 September 2017
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  23. vxcmplx

    vxcmplx League 1

    11 May 2011
    I also want to know this. Anyone in the lobbies yet? Does it look region free?
     

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