Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread ....... I'm getting a real satisfaction from scoring goals in demo 2. Probably more than I did from a whole season on pes 2012. The goals seem more earned somehow and look better. I hope the final release has demo 1 shooting, slightly toned down a fraction to bring it nearer to that of demo 2. I would also like the overall speed of the retail version to be somewhere between 1 and 2. I appreciate that konami have taken into consideration, all types of aspects when it comes to shooting in this demo. My only problem is the ball physics seem a little off. It dips too fast sometimes and appears to have extra gravitational pull on it, even when shooting from close range. The best of demo 1, blended in with the best of the second one would make a great game I think.