From what I see they look the same really. Its not like I was to compare PES 6 with PES 2010 video. You will see an immense contrast. I don't see that any different when comparing PES 2009 with PES 10s video, they all seem the same to me. Well its normal for Martins to be faster than Et'o since he is much younger. But even then his speed his to high. He's like Usain Bolts. Do you see a footballer in real life to be at the speed of Bolts? Well, that's what I am saying. Imho, Konami should start producing Athletics and Olympic Sport games more rather than PES. Because I am sure these games will get a 9.0/10 star ratings. W ell that is exactly what PES 08/09 game is all about, speed! And that's what's destroying the pleasure of the game. I hate winning games where players are running like Cheetah or like some Olympic Sprinter, it kills off the game instantly. The speed is the major factor in winning games in PES 08/09. And in actual fact its an exploitational way of winning matches. That's deeply wrong and damaging the impression and reputation of the wonderful game of football. We know perfectly well that football is not ice hockey. Now if this was the only major problem with PES 09, I understand. But what about the freekicks? Do you think its acceptable to have a game where its almost impossible to score freekicks? Where unless I don't set the game difficulty to Beginner I wouldn't have a single chance at goal. Infact I did score goals in 09, something like 3-4 goals in PES 2009 from what I could remember. And the funniest thing was in PES 08 where scoring goals from free kicks were so easy when setting the game quality to Low or Medium. How could it possibly make the goal keepers weak by reducing the difficulty to low quality settings?!?! Again, that's broken. Well, it was fixed in PES 09, but why did it take a whole year for Konami to fix this minor problem? At least when I played PES 6 free kicks are so much more possible. I didn't feel like giving up. YouTube - PES6: The Free Kick Guide by Petrit This tutorial certainly helped me score quite a few goals, a lot more than PES 08 or 09. And the goal keepers weren't affect when setting the game to high quality. Where do we see this in 09? Yes, we hear a lot of these bloody excuses. "oh you have to learn how to do it"! I am fed up of these false and invalid excuses. I have played PES 09 online vs a top 10 player from the leaderboard (infact there was no lag both of us had green connection). I fouled him, not far away from a goal scoring position, yet he still failed to score! Now wasn't he not an expert? Well I expected him to score. But we know after all that it is bad programming. Well, you may think that the gameplay may be good, despite the fact that the animations are like skaters running in the pitch. But tell me why should we bare to tolerate it in the first place?! We've waited for the last couple of years for this problem to be fixed, yet Seabass has done nothing to it! Now how does that make me feel positive and optimistic about the gameplay being good either? People may give examples they've played PES 3 and then 4, 5, etc. But we've got to recognize that PES 3, 4 and 5 are much different. Well I've played only from PES 5 onwards. I have to say PES 5 was the best, PES 6 was the 2nd best PES I've played. And these games completely differed from each other. I don't see how PES 2010 is diferring from 09, but we shall see about that! The problem is, its the same vicious cycle. There is nothing new except for the graphics. I will indeed play the demo and see what Konami are up to!