I’m trying to alternate between this and FIFA. I think that is what keeping me enjoying both games so much at the moment. The problem with tennis games if you don’t play for a while it can be difficult to remember the different shots again. I get what you mean about reminding you of PES in the day. Just improving my player’s stats slightly make a difference in the game. I still haven't won a set yet though Any reason why BA have stopped the patches? Yeh if you are not a tennis fan then it wont be your thing. It is a really good simulation and I don’t find it arcadey. I know they did a good job with their cricket game but then cricket is not for me. There were a lot of complaints about the lack of licences and players but I’ve got most players and venues now from the community.