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Kaka Ballon d'Or 2007

Discussion in 'Football' started by ThomasGOAL, 21 October 2007.

  1. ThomasGOAL

    ThomasGOAL Retired Footballer

    15 March 2003
    France
    Ballon d'Or 2007 France Football

    the 50 players

    Eric Abidal (Lyon puis FC Barcelone), France
    Daniel Alves (FC Séville), Brésil
    David Beckham (Real Madrid puis Los Angeles Galaxy), Angleterre
    Dimitar Berbatov (Tottenham), Bulgarie
    Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus Turin), Italie
    Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid), Italie
    Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Espagne
    Petr Cech (Chelsea), République tchèque
    Rogerio Ceni (Sao Paulo), Brésil
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United), Portugal
    Deco (FC Barcelone), Portugal
    Mahamadou Diarra (Real Madrid), Mali
    Diego (Werder Brême), Brésil
    Didier Drogba (Chelsea), Côte d'Ivoire
    Michael Essien (Chelsea), Ghana
    Samuel Eto'o (FC Barcelone), Cameroun
    Francesc Fabregas (Arsenal), Espagne
    Gennaro Gattuso (Milan AC), Italie
    Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Angleterre
    Ryan Giggs (Manchester United), Galles
    Thierry Henry (Arsenal puis FC Barcelone), France
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Inter Milan), Suède
    Filippo Inzaghi (Milan AC), Italie
    Kakà (Milan AC), Brésil
    Frédéric Kanouté (FC Séville), Mali
    Miroslav Klose (Bayern Munich), Allemagne
    Younis Mahmoud (Algharafa), Irak
    Paolo Maldini (Milan AC), Italie
    Florent Malouda (Lyon puis Chelsea), France
    Lionel Andres Messi (FC Barcelone), Argentine
    Shunsuke Nakamura (Celtic Glasgow), Japon
    Guillermo Ochoa (America Mexico), Mexique
    Andrea Pirlo (Milan AC), Italie
    Ricardo Quaresma (FC Porto), Portugal
    Raul (Real Madrid), Espagne
    Franck Ribéry (Marseille puis Bayern Munich), France
    Juan Roman Riquelme (Boca Juniors puis Villarreal), Argentine
    Robinho (Real Madrid), Brésil
    Ronaldinho (FC Barcelone), Brésil
    Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Angleterre
    Paul Scholes (Manchester United), Angleterre
    Clarence Seedorf (Milan AC), Pays-Bas
    Carlos Tevez (West Ham puis Manchester United), Argentine
    Luca Toni (Fiorentina puis Bayern Munich), Italie
    Kolo Touré (Arsenal), Côte d'Ivoire
    José Fernando Torres (Atletico Madrid puis Liverpool), Espagne
    Francesco Totti (AS Roma), Italie
    Ruud van Nistelrooy (Real Madrid), Pays-Bas
    Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Pays-Bas
    David Villa (Valence CF), Espagne.
     
    Last edited: 21 October 2007
  2. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    5 from Milan :D COME ON KAKA AND PIRLO!
     
  3. ThomasGOAL

    ThomasGOAL Retired Footballer

    15 March 2003
    France
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Kaka win i'm sure (next year Messi)
     
  4. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    4.5 United players as well!

    Go Ronaldo!
     
  5. marukomu

    marukomu Ecchi otoko

    26 November 2005
    Okayama, Japan
    Man Utd, Stockport County
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    most of hose are on reputation and not last year's performances.
    Was Giggs better than Vidic last year? Should Gerrard be in there? Just two examples so I'm not being biased.
     
  6. PetrovLFC

    PetrovLFC Raul!

    13 March 2005
    NW London
    Liverpool
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Gerrard was instremental in Liverpool getting to the CL final.

    Granted I feel our best players last season were Agger/Carragher. Agger's too young, and Carra just isn't continental enough to get anyone near something like this.

    Funny that RVP got in depsite being injured for most of the year. It is all about reputation.

    Torres shouldn't be there either....next year for sure ;) Maybe the WC had some bearing.
     
  7. Glavisted

    Glavisted Premiership

    20 July 2005
    Lima, Perú
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    It's really difficult Kaká won't win the Golden Ball (also the FIFA World Player).

    The hero of Irak, Younis Mahmoud, is the big surprise to the non-asian world. :mrgreen:
     
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt The answer must be Jam

    26 July 2007
    Everton
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Kaka for me. Ronaldo wasn't even the best player in Manchester- Rooney was better in the big games.

    Can't believe that Arteta and Fabregas were not included.
     
  9. PetrovLFC

    PetrovLFC Raul!

    13 March 2005
    NW London
    Liverpool
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Fabregas is there!
     
  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt The answer must be Jam

    26 July 2007
    Everton
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    I didn't see him Oops- stand corrected mate.

    Still no Arteta, what is all that about?

    Arteta was every bit as good as any attacking midfielder in England last year.
     
  11. steevio_uk

    steevio_uk Premiership

    7 October 2003
    West Ham
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Ronaldo for me.

    Kaka was better than Ronaldo in Europe last year, but not by too much, so that might sway the decision in Kaka's favour, but domestically and indeed overall,- Ronaldo was better for me.

    It has to be at least 1 of those 2 otherwise the world has gone mad I tell thee!

    I have to disagree with you on Rooney vanzandt, as for me he was poor for parts of the season despite putting in some good games.
    Ronaldo done it all year without exception.
     
  12. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    imo Kaka was by far one of the best players in the CL and Serie A. Also one of the best performers for Brazil. He is also more consistent than Ronaldo was. I think Kaka is a firm leader for this years title.

    Predictions:

    Kaka
    Ronaldo
    Pirlo

    In this order.
     
  13. Ret KiT

    Ret KiT Premiership

    25 March 2007
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    agreed. Kaka played top notch in every game , every competition national and club.
     
  14. PetrovLFC

    PetrovLFC Raul!

    13 March 2005
    NW London
    Liverpool
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    I agree, but I'm afarid its because he plays for a 'small club'

    Well FIFA seem to think so.

    For the record I never agreed with Rafa, outside the top 4 you are the most successfull English team, and you have a big stadium that is usually filled. Its just now you are relatively small compared to the giants.
     
  15. steevio_uk

    steevio_uk Premiership

    7 October 2003
    West Ham
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    I thought Kaka's form was quite patchy domestically early this year.

    If i'm wrong then please correct me as it's quite hard to cast your mind back sometimes...
     
  16. Bule

    Bule Leoni Rossi

    20 March 2004
    Istanbul, Turkey
    Galatasaray SK
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Kaka will. No doubt.
     
  17. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Kaka.
    And i agree with Vanzandt on Arteta...

    PS: that referee in the Liverpool derby was dreadfull...among the wort i've ever seen...the way he was influenced by Gerrard...i've lost lots of respect for Gerrard too after having seen that...
     
  18. vanzandt

    vanzandt The answer must be Jam

    26 July 2007
    Everton
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    You might be right on FIFA's thinking, which is odd because no one considered Villareal too small in relation to Riquelme. I suppose the international side of things might come into that thinking but even so. Everyone in the English league knows how brilliant Arteta has been.

    Nice to hear you didn't agree with that mate.

    The only thing small about Everton is the finances and a lack of financial muscle- which I guess is what it is mostly about these days when you look at football.

    e.g

    Chelsea- poorer fan base, poorer history, no where near the number of titles etc.

    If Everton had Chelsea's money tomorrow we would in effect immediately become a banker for the top four. As is stands we are financialy small or relatively so.

    One interesting thing is the massive premier league cash this year. I read something along the lines of coming 4th from bottom this year will see a similar finacial return as finishing 5th did last year. If that is true and Everton can keep getting reasonable placings- UEFA cup say...Everton will soon earn a lot of dough and in relation to many clubs in other leagues be relatively rich and powerful.

    Maybe then a player like Arteta would not be ignored for things like this. Not saying he should win it, of course not- but he should have been included in the running.


    Anyway for me the award should go to Kaka.
     
  19. PetrovLFC

    PetrovLFC Raul!

    13 March 2005
    NW London
    Liverpool
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Hehe, well I don't think you can compare him to Riquelme.

    Villareal fell just short of the CL final in 2005 and Riquelme was a major cog in the Argie 2006 world cup squad that really should of gone on to win the thing.
     
  20. matt_cfc

    matt_cfc Grand Old Team 2 Play For

    9 February 2006
    Scotland
    Celtic, Man Utd
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    These lists are so much pish. No Boruc, Giggs and Henry get in despite Giggs being poor most games and Henry missing about 65% of games this season. Maldini has been poor whenever I've seen him, Cannavaro and Diarra havent deserved it, Gerrard has been disappointing. Henry is the most apalling, it's purely on reputation that he's in, hes been injured most of the time. I can't believe how shite these lists are. Nakamura has been poor so far this season, he didnt do much in the second half of last season except the thing he is IMO the best at, set pieces. But no Boruc, despite the fact he is our best player, fantastic in every game (bar one against Hibs)...what a load of bollocks, I wouldn't wipe my arse with this "list". And Arteta has been outstanding for quite some time, wtf is wrong with these awards. I hate them. They only prove how overhyped players are.
     
  21. vanzandt

    vanzandt The answer must be Jam

    26 July 2007
    Everton
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Passionate about your footy mate...like it and a lot of truth in what you say. :applause:

    I think your keeper has been top notch by the way.

    I'll still say Kaka though because I really thought he was great....but a lot of players who are hyped are included on reputation- no doubt.


    To be fair if Ferguson's goal counted agaist Villareal (there was no foul at all) then maybe the situation woul dhave been very different in terms of Villareal in the champions League. In any case Riquelme wasn't actually that good in the champions league, missing a crucial penalty against Arsenal being just one of his chmapions League low points.

    Riquelme was very good in La Liga, that year but then again Everton have been a similarly placed club and Arteta has been excellent at Everton so?

    Where you do have a very valid point IMO is in reference to the Argentine national team. That said Spain wont pick Arteta so there isn't much he can do if not selected.

    I can see where you are coming from and you might be right in what you are saying. I just feel that Arteta's performances last season warrented inclusion in that list.
     
    Last edited: 23 October 2007
  22. steevio_uk

    steevio_uk Premiership

    7 October 2003
    West Ham
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Whilst I think Arteta wasn't at Riquelme's level, he should have been in that list for sure.
    Tevez shouldn't have.

    He was very good-indifferent for the first 15-20 games and in the last 10 or so games, was one of the best players in the world on form, but certainly overall not worthy of inclusion.
     
  23. McLeo

    McLeo Conference

    24 October 2007
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Kaka will win even if he played a good season only in Champions League..
     
  24. AleksR9

    AleksR9 League 2

    27 August 2007
    AC Milan
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    its gonna be either Kaka or Pirlo, most likely Kaka
     
  25. AOBrien07

    AOBrien07 Safc till i die !

    12 May 2006
    Sunderland
    Sunderland
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    I reckon Messi should win it if a manager see's a opposition team sheet with kaka,c.ronaldo and messi on I would be most worry about messi this kid is a danger every time he touches the ball.
     
  26. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Kaka isnt only a player that causes damage himself.... he's what creates Milan's attack with his passing. He's more complete than Messi is.
     
  27. vanzandt

    vanzandt The answer must be Jam

    26 July 2007
    Everton
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    If we are talking as of right now based on
    His performaces;

    Sorry Messi IS miles better than Kaka- FACT.

    But;
    It is not about this year, mainly about last year......for which Kaka was brilliant.
     
  28. Review

    Review Guest

    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    :lmao::lmao::lmao: Pirlo has no chance mate
     
  29. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    Don't think Pirlo will win, but I think he has a chance for 2nd or 3rd.
     
  30. terry26

    terry26 League 1

    26 June 2005
    Bergamo,Italy.
    FC Inter
    Re: Ballon d'Or 2007

    that year probably KAKA or MESSI....but next year IBRAHIMOVIC...
     

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