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HD Televisons

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Adonis, 23 May 2005.

  1. Adonis

    Adonis Guest

    Hey guys, Just wanted to know if any of you own or have seen a hdtv?

    Just that the next gen console are chatting loads about them, whats the deal? All I know is that they are high definition tv's that allow you to play your xbox 360/ps3 with an amazing picture.

    I havnt been able to find any in the uk, except on ebay where the widescreen ones are well over £1000!

    thanks
     
  2. Mack

    Mack Champions League

    8 August 2003
    Manchester
    MCFC
    you need a dvi inout for the hish defintion stuff that sky will be bringing in this year alot of tvs have that already, look for DVI input!
     
  3. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    I've seen a HDTV in Makro, its looks very nice, it was aorund 40" plus, didnt cost much as well.
     
  4. RuneEdge

    RuneEdge Silent Assassin

    1 October 2003
    Turn around, I'm right behind you...
    Manchester United
    Could someone explain to me what a High Definition TV actually is?
    Whats the technical difference?
     
  5. Mack

    Mack Champions League

    8 August 2003
    Manchester
    MCFC
    its basically down to the amount of lines if resolutuion and the way it then scans your picture plus dolby surround sound on normal tv, its basiaclly twice the quality of a nstc signal!
     
  6. RuneEdge

    RuneEdge Silent Assassin

    1 October 2003
    Turn around, I'm right behind you...
    Manchester United
    So its just bigger and sharper?
     
  7. babs

    babs Guest

    NTSC usually uses 648 x 486 resolution, whereas HD can be several different kinds. 480p, 720p and 1080i are the usual resolutions used and describe the type of picture.

    The number gives you the number of horizontal lines (the more the better) and the i/p refers to the type of picture. i is interlaced, and is the way normal TVs work, where it only draws half the picture on each pass, say doing odd lines one refresh, even ones on the next. p is progressive scan where it draws the whole frame on each refresh, and effectively looks better.

    There's not much to pick between 720p and 1080i as the resolutions and refresh types play off against each other. If you want a TV for the future, look for those types, as it's those that HDTV will use and the new consoles too.
     
  8. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    Pretty sure the latest telly the old man bought has HD, any current gen games/systems I can try it out on to see?
     
  9. babs

    babs Guest

    Yeah, Xbox, PS2 and gamecube. In some instances these have to be the import version, in some chipped. A modded xbox has the option and you may have to have the imported verion of the software. I believe Triangle and X held on boot enable PS2 HD, but again it's got to be a console and game that support it.
     
  10. Adonis

    Adonis Guest

    I read an article saying hdtv's arent actually 'officailly' scheduled to be released in europe until 2007!

    wtf,

    That mean I gotta import one?

    As for seeing it in makro, dont you have to have some sort of membership card to get in?
     
  11. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    They are certainly out, I checked up on mine and turns out it is HDMI-compatible, 1080i/p, DVI, etc, so basically I have a HDTV.

    Only thing is on my Xbox settings screen the only 2 options under video are widescreen and pal 60 on/off, nothing about progressive scan or HD. This is when it's plugged into the regular TV, not the HD one, but I don't imagine it would change even then.

    Can you get HD gaming with a PAL Xbox?
     
  12. foxtrot

    foxtrot Shoe bomber

    24 December 2002
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Rangers FC
    You jammy bastard. I want one. Have Sky set a date yet for HD transmissions? I know the BBC tested it a few months back.
     
  13. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    Heard it's this year sometime, also heard NTL are gonna take it up too but I'll believe that when I see it (feckers).

    It's all well and good having a HDTV but I ain't got anything to play on it! I tried WE8LE on it and maybe it was just my mind playing tricks on me but it looked worse than on my own TV. That might be because the bigger the TV, the more stretched and pixellated it looks, a bit like when you stretch the window size while viewing porno clips and get a muff full of squares. :mrgreen:
     
  14. babs

    babs Guest

    Yup, that's why. A PAL xbox can only do prog scan if it's been chipped/modded, I believe it can then be enabled in options. You may need a different lead too, if you check american sites they sell hi-def kits.
     
  15. babs

    babs Guest

    Coincidentally there's a fresh thread on this over here.
     
  16. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Yeah, you need a membership card!

    Yeah, you need a company to get a card.
     
  17. Kenny M

    Kenny M Guest

    classic,

    you need a component cable to get progressive scan on the xbox.


    i used this cheat to enable my pal xbox to play progressve scan on my hi def lcd.

    http://www.xboxworld.com.au/forum/printthread.php?t=28489



    most xbox games only output 480p which isn't really true hi def picture. i tried the matrix game which is 1080i which looks stunning, also soul calibur II is 720p but in a 4:3 format which also looks amazing.

    i can't wait for the hi def games on 360 and ps3.
     
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  18. Adonis

    Adonis Guest

    classic, you already have one? did you buy it from a normal store?

    Lucky just read you messege coz had given up and was gona buy a flat screen!

    The thing is Im really having problems finding one because they're not described as hdtv's. Im just looking for numbers like 720p and 1080i? all the info i tend to get is stuff like 100hz etc.

    Any places anyone can recommend?

    thanks in advance
     
  19. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    Cheers Kenny, unfortunately I don't have any of that stuff and seeing as not many game support it, plus the fact 360 is only about 6 months or so away I don't think I'll bother my arse.

    Adonis, yep I already have that TV, it's a SAMSUNG LW32A33WX. Think it was on a special offer, the folks paid under a grand for it anyway, and wherever they got it from threw in a nice portable DVD player-thingy.

    Anyway, try looking for 'HDMI' in feature lists too, it means 'High Definition Multimedia Interface' or something, the 720p and 1080i thingies are good to look for as well :).
     
  20. Kenny M

    Kenny M Guest

    yes, sky will be broadcasting in hi def next year and your tv will need hdmi input to accept the signal.

    my lcd does not have hdmi as i will not be using skys new service, but it accepts 480p,720p,1080i and 1080p progreesive scan.

    tv's without hdmi are not classed as hi def tv's, but they may be able to accept a hi def input.
     
  21. Adonis

    Adonis Guest

    thanx for your help guys. gonna try and find me a hi def tv today!

    but seeing as many hd services dont start until next year im not sure whether to, or just wait for a tv that supports 1080p aswell as 1080i.

    decisions decisions ;)
     
  22. SilverSpider

    SilverSpider League 2

    7 April 2003
    An idea for you Mate, if you can be arsed with the Setting up involved ....

    Basically you can really impress yourself and your Family by hooking up your PC to the TV with DVI/TV Out and then getting HD WMV Clips from ...

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/ContentShowcase.aspx


    Then basically just run it and be pleasantly impressed ... Hopefully.


    I can vouch for the "Robotica" clip, looks cool and is only a Small-ish D/L'd.

    HTH
     
  23. gomito#10

    gomito#10 World Cup Winner

    9 May 2003
    DC, USA
    i have had a HD tv for about 4 years, watching 24 on HD is def a plus, not to mention, NFL football, golf, and the best sport is tennis, I was able to catch one soccer/footie on tv and its very impressive, however its just not worth it to buy now, wait for the signals to be broadcast over there before I would buy...
     
  24. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    I am looking to buy a new TV, looking through catalogues. There are TV's which are called IDTV's. It says the IDTV's will accept the new digital signals coming to UK in 2007.

    After reading this great sites FAQs: http://www.idtv.co.uk/

    I see that IDTV means a tv which can handle digital signals without a freeview box.

    A quote from the site
    [​IMG]
    This is the picture of the HD Ready image.
     
  25. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
  26. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Need help.

    Say I buy a TV with DVI, will I be able to recieve HDTV? Yes. But what is the disadvantage of DVI compared to buying a TV with HDMI.
    Also does DVI, support PC input?
     
  27. ClassicD

    ClassicD Galáctico

    11 November 2001
    Glasgow
    Celtic
    Not sure mate but I would have thought any TV with HDMI would actually require a DVI-in socket in the first place, so if it's got HDMI it should have DVI?

    Yep DVI means you can stick your PC on the telly too.
     
  28. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Nice, thanks. I'll try to find out about HDMI/DVI link.
     
  29. Mack

    Mack Champions League

    8 August 2003
    Manchester
    MCFC
    100% correct!
     
  30. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Thanks people!
     

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