- Staff
- #31
Frontlines: Fuel Of War (360, PC, PS3)
- Thread starter Plan M
- Start date
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
That was to Plan M, now you made me look like a idiot.
- Staff
- #34
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
Are they any good?
DJ Doc45
Banned
- 14 April 2005
Another FPS... we have got so many of them. Ill try this due to the Multiplayerness of it but wont play it for Single Player.
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
Looks like we will have quite a few on later one then 
Becanes
Bundle of Energy
I'll download it at some point today.
D
DagsJT
Guest
I'll be on at 10pm
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
I just ordered it for that price.
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
Just noticed on my order from that place it says allow 7 day's for delivery?
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
You've been Punk'd!!!!!
I left my computer downloading while my xbox was turned off last night and it took Fooking Ages!!!
I went to bed...........yeah thats right It took that long I went to bed!!! put that in your pipe and smoke it!!
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
So are you gonna join us for a game later?
with your mic plugged in as well
Last night me and Jay had what i thought was the best match i have had on the game. we was pushing up and holding checkpoint points while other went further ahead instead of running backwards and forwards to each one and i think that made for a much better game
Thats when the Sniper came into play becuase you could sit back on the edge of the map like i was or as jay was on top of a building or even on top of a massive oil rig waiting for them to try and steal the checkpoint and then taking there head off when they do :lol:
Once you know the rules of the game mode its very very good, if anyone wants a run down i will gladly tell ya
with your mic plugged in as well
Last night me and Jay had what i thought was the best match i have had on the game. we was pushing up and holding checkpoint points while other went further ahead instead of running backwards and forwards to each one and i think that made for a much better game
Thats when the Sniper came into play becuase you could sit back on the edge of the map like i was or as jay was on top of a building or even on top of a massive oil rig waiting for them to try and steal the checkpoint and then taking there head off when they do :lol:
Once you know the rules of the game mode its very very good, if anyone wants a run down i will gladly tell ya
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
So are you gonna join us for a game later?
with your mic plugged in as well
Last night me and Jay had what i thought was the best match i have had on the game. we was pushing up and holding checkpoint points while other went further ahead instead of running backwards and forwards to each one and i think that made for a much better game
Thats when the Sniper came into play becuase you could sit back on the edge of the map like i was or as jay was on top of a building or even on top of a massive oil rig waiting for them to try and steal the checkpoint and then taking there head off when they do :lol:
Once you know the rules of the game mode its very very good, if anyone wants a run down i will gladly tell ya
I'm out at the pub tonight watching the mighty Arsenal!!
So I won't be able to play it tonight sorry - but Hopefully tomorrow.
Joe
International
- 9 August 2004
It is enjoyable but I dont think ill be buying it
pboreham
Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.
Saw you all playing this last night - is it worth downloading the demo for as I thought the general feeling was that it was shite?
D
DagsJT
Guest
It's not bad PBB, I think I'd prefer it to CoD4 online just for the fact it's SLIGHTLY less run-and-gun, the maps are bigger and you don't bump into someone within seconds of spawning (for the most part).
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
Dags if you play it properly its not run and gun at all
like i said if some hold a checkpoint whist the other push on you dont see people bunching up because were all doin something
like i said if some hold a checkpoint whist the other push on you dont see people bunching up because were all doin something
D
DagsJT
Guest
True Coopz, but the fact that I spawned and died five seconds later on a number of occasions put me off it a bit.
I quite liked it last night, the more I played it the more I got into it. Riding in vehicles was well funny, especially the helicopter with Jay
I quite liked it last night, the more I played it the more I got into it. Riding in vehicles was well funny, especially the helicopter with Jay
pboreham
Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.
Might go and download this then and hopefully join you all later?
DJ Doc45
Banned
- 14 April 2005
I got the demo yesterday and I wanna have a go with some of you guys.
D
DagsJT
Guest
Might be on after the football
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
I'll be on later but maybe 9.30-10.00. I cant wait to get this now i wanna try flying the jet.
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
if joe comes on will will have a nice little group then
i give you a run down of the rules
first the map is split in half and the aim is to push your team up to take over the whole map.
you see 2 circles on the map and you have to take over these to push up to the next 2, if the oppo takes it then it will go red
if is goes red, first you have to neutralise it which makes it anyones then stay there to make it your own (by either standing near or or sometimes holding A)
so if you have nearly got all the way up and they take over a previous one the frontline moves back and you have to retake the last one so you can push up again, so that means you need man to stay back and hold em
thats about it, it will come more clear when your in the game
i give you a run down of the rules
first the map is split in half and the aim is to push your team up to take over the whole map.
you see 2 circles on the map and you have to take over these to push up to the next 2, if the oppo takes it then it will go red
if is goes red, first you have to neutralise it which makes it anyones then stay there to make it your own (by either standing near or or sometimes holding A)
so if you have nearly got all the way up and they take over a previous one the frontline moves back and you have to retake the last one so you can push up again, so that means you need man to stay back and hold em
thats about it, it will come more clear when your in the game
- Staff
- #56
I might get the MP demo of this but I don't know what I'll think of it...
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
I do.
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
Me and joe last night after our first mission.
Coopz
Retired Footballer
- 27 April 2002
Its free so what does it matter
jaygrim
TheAllSeeingEye
A little bit of history, first off. Frontlines: Fuel of War is the first game from Kaos Studios, which was formed by former members of Trauma Studios late last year. Trauma, you may recall, was responsible for Battlefield 1942's Desert Combat mod - which turned out so well that DICE ended up buying the studio, and employing its members to do a vast amount of research and development for Battlefield 2.
In other words, the Frontlines team has a healthy pedigree - indeed, it's comprised not only of designers who worked on Desert Combat, but also veterans from F.E.A.R., Doom 3 and the Medal of Honor games. With that in mind, it's not really surprising that Frontlines is a first-person shooter game; or to be more precise, in the words of lead designer Frank DeLise, Frontlines is "an open-world infantry and vehicle based FPS with advanced next-generation weapons in a near future setting."
The development process began, DeLise explains, with the team taking a long, hard look at their own favourite FPS titles, in order to identify what was missing from them. Kaos wanted "to go out and create what we felt was the next leap forward in the genre," and to deliver a first-person shooter that would make the most of the technical capabilities of the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and next-gen PCs.
They didn't just want the next-gen theme to extend to the platforms the game will appear on, either, but to the weapons and vehicles you get to play with - which meant a futuristic setting was required. So, Frontlines is set a few years from now, in a world where the depletion of fossil fuels has reached crisis point and a global war has kicked off. The Western Coalition (the US and EU) and the Red Star Alliance (Russia and China) are fighting it out for the last remaining oil on the planet, using all the cutting-edge military technology they can get their hands on.
Tomorrow's world
Urban warfare, Frontlines style.
"A lot of weapons in Desert Combat and Battlefield 2 were modern day weapons. We wanted to take Frontlines where technology is going next; what the next tank will look like, what the next weapons will look like and so on... " says DeLise.
"So we took the [real life] designs that are out there and added a little Kaos theory, and created over 60 vehicles and weapons that you get to use in the game."
Since the game is still more than a year away from launch, most of these are being kept under wraps for now, but DeLise does reveal that you'll be able to use gun-cams to shoot round corners in Frontlines. There will also be remote control drones which can fly into rooms and survey enemy positions, and remote control car bombs - these can be driven underneath enemy vehicles, if you're skilled enough, and they pack enough of a punch to blow entire tanks up. It's all about giving you the chance to try out "tomorrow's weapons today," according to DeLise.
"The other big thing we felt was missing out there was customisation," he continues.
"A lot of games force you into a single player environment where they tell you, 'Okay, you're a sniper in this mission.' And if you're tired of being a sniper, that's it - you throw away the game, or you just stop playing it, because that's not the way you want to play."
Instead, Frontlines will let you choose which role you want to take on for each mission, so you can be a sniper or a medic or a recon operative or whatever else you fancy. You can also choose the kind of fighter you want to be - you might decide you're a Rambo-type who likes to go in with all guns blazing, for example, or you could opt to take a more stealthy, undercover approach.
Showing some front
Hurrah for great big tanks! With great big guns! And stuff!
There are also plenty of choices to be made when it comes to the way the game's missions are structured. There's no linear system with regard to how you're presented with mission objectives - "I was getting tired of that in single player games," DeLise says, "So we designed a whole new system."
But how does it work? Well, "You attack each mission from the frontline. So you can insert anywhere on this frontline, choose the kind of character you want to be, and then go into [your chosen] battle and choose how you want to actually finish it."
Which means you'll always have multiple objectives to pick from, and you can plan your own route through the missions. So, for example, you might choose to tackle an objective which will allow you to take possession of the enemy's vehicles and weapons if you succeed, and then use said weapons and vehicles to complete your second objective.
"It's really cool, and even in multiplayer it's great," DeLise reckons.
"Most multiplayer games are spread out across the map - this guy's attacking somebody way over here, this guy's fighting way over there... With the Frontlines system, we fight together on the same front. So if I look to my right, I see a friend of mine is in a tank, if I look to the left I see a guy in a helicopter, all fighting for the same purpose - which is to move this front forwards." When you consider that up to 32 players will be able to take part in online matches, regardless of whether you're playing the PC or console versions, it's clear that this could make for some very interesting battles.
Team time
In a combat situation, anything can happen. But most likely everyone will try to shoot each other..
It's all part of what DeLise describes of the "next-generation team play" featured in Frontlines. Not only can you see what your team mates are doing whilst in the middle of a mission, but you can also communicate with them. If you're driving a tank, say, your mate can poke his head out of the top to keep watch for any danger coming up from behind.
There are no limits when it comes to the path you take through missions, since environments are fully destructible. "If there's not a path that you want, make your own path - destroy walls with C4, or use tank cannons to blow them away. So by the end of a mission, you'll have completely destroyed these levels."
Well, there you have it - Frontlines: Fuel of War is not just about next-gen graphics, but next-gen gameplay, next-gen mission structures, next-gen multiplayer action and next-gen blowing stuff up. But will it really set the standard for what we can expect from next-gen first-person shooters? Well, they've got enough time to give it a go, since Frontlines is out in autumn 2007. Providing the world hasn't collapsed on account of there not being any fossil fuels left by then, of course.
In other words, the Frontlines team has a healthy pedigree - indeed, it's comprised not only of designers who worked on Desert Combat, but also veterans from F.E.A.R., Doom 3 and the Medal of Honor games. With that in mind, it's not really surprising that Frontlines is a first-person shooter game; or to be more precise, in the words of lead designer Frank DeLise, Frontlines is "an open-world infantry and vehicle based FPS with advanced next-generation weapons in a near future setting."
The development process began, DeLise explains, with the team taking a long, hard look at their own favourite FPS titles, in order to identify what was missing from them. Kaos wanted "to go out and create what we felt was the next leap forward in the genre," and to deliver a first-person shooter that would make the most of the technical capabilities of the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and next-gen PCs.
They didn't just want the next-gen theme to extend to the platforms the game will appear on, either, but to the weapons and vehicles you get to play with - which meant a futuristic setting was required. So, Frontlines is set a few years from now, in a world where the depletion of fossil fuels has reached crisis point and a global war has kicked off. The Western Coalition (the US and EU) and the Red Star Alliance (Russia and China) are fighting it out for the last remaining oil on the planet, using all the cutting-edge military technology they can get their hands on.
Tomorrow's world
Urban warfare, Frontlines style.
"A lot of weapons in Desert Combat and Battlefield 2 were modern day weapons. We wanted to take Frontlines where technology is going next; what the next tank will look like, what the next weapons will look like and so on... " says DeLise.
"So we took the [real life] designs that are out there and added a little Kaos theory, and created over 60 vehicles and weapons that you get to use in the game."
Since the game is still more than a year away from launch, most of these are being kept under wraps for now, but DeLise does reveal that you'll be able to use gun-cams to shoot round corners in Frontlines. There will also be remote control drones which can fly into rooms and survey enemy positions, and remote control car bombs - these can be driven underneath enemy vehicles, if you're skilled enough, and they pack enough of a punch to blow entire tanks up. It's all about giving you the chance to try out "tomorrow's weapons today," according to DeLise.
"The other big thing we felt was missing out there was customisation," he continues.
"A lot of games force you into a single player environment where they tell you, 'Okay, you're a sniper in this mission.' And if you're tired of being a sniper, that's it - you throw away the game, or you just stop playing it, because that's not the way you want to play."
Instead, Frontlines will let you choose which role you want to take on for each mission, so you can be a sniper or a medic or a recon operative or whatever else you fancy. You can also choose the kind of fighter you want to be - you might decide you're a Rambo-type who likes to go in with all guns blazing, for example, or you could opt to take a more stealthy, undercover approach.
Showing some front
Hurrah for great big tanks! With great big guns! And stuff!
There are also plenty of choices to be made when it comes to the way the game's missions are structured. There's no linear system with regard to how you're presented with mission objectives - "I was getting tired of that in single player games," DeLise says, "So we designed a whole new system."
But how does it work? Well, "You attack each mission from the frontline. So you can insert anywhere on this frontline, choose the kind of character you want to be, and then go into [your chosen] battle and choose how you want to actually finish it."
Which means you'll always have multiple objectives to pick from, and you can plan your own route through the missions. So, for example, you might choose to tackle an objective which will allow you to take possession of the enemy's vehicles and weapons if you succeed, and then use said weapons and vehicles to complete your second objective.
"It's really cool, and even in multiplayer it's great," DeLise reckons.
"Most multiplayer games are spread out across the map - this guy's attacking somebody way over here, this guy's fighting way over there... With the Frontlines system, we fight together on the same front. So if I look to my right, I see a friend of mine is in a tank, if I look to the left I see a guy in a helicopter, all fighting for the same purpose - which is to move this front forwards." When you consider that up to 32 players will be able to take part in online matches, regardless of whether you're playing the PC or console versions, it's clear that this could make for some very interesting battles.
Team time
In a combat situation, anything can happen. But most likely everyone will try to shoot each other..
It's all part of what DeLise describes of the "next-generation team play" featured in Frontlines. Not only can you see what your team mates are doing whilst in the middle of a mission, but you can also communicate with them. If you're driving a tank, say, your mate can poke his head out of the top to keep watch for any danger coming up from behind.
There are no limits when it comes to the path you take through missions, since environments are fully destructible. "If there's not a path that you want, make your own path - destroy walls with C4, or use tank cannons to blow them away. So by the end of a mission, you'll have completely destroyed these levels."
Well, there you have it - Frontlines: Fuel of War is not just about next-gen graphics, but next-gen gameplay, next-gen mission structures, next-gen multiplayer action and next-gen blowing stuff up. But will it really set the standard for what we can expect from next-gen first-person shooters? Well, they've got enough time to give it a go, since Frontlines is out in autumn 2007. Providing the world hasn't collapsed on account of there not being any fossil fuels left by then, of course.