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FIFA 13

Discussion in 'FIFA' started by OPM, 3 May 2012.

  1. OPM

    OPM ... Staff

    2 June 2003
    Budapest
    .
    No thread yet? :CONFUSE:
    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/346332/fifa-13-players-to-look-more-realistic/


    http://fifagamersblog.com/2012/04/20/fifa-13-presentation-de-la-premiere-version-a-la-presse/
     
  2. PLF

    PLF Legend

    2 August 2004
    Too early for me to start reading about FIFA 13! :P

    Makes the wait much harder and let's face it we have a LONG way to go till the game is released and the enjoyment of FIFA12 which I'm still very much doing less so I think I'll stay away but thanks for the thread and info. :)
     
  3. Bitter Rivals

    Bitter Rivals International

    24 January 2005
    yea i am going to try and avoid these threads for a while yet
     
  4. Becanes

    Becanes Bundle of Energy

    25 April 2002
    Atlanta via South Florida
    Hurricanes, USA, Fulham
    I will check this thread every day I remember to.
     
  5. Bitter Rivals

    Bitter Rivals International

    24 January 2005
    yo B, you about tonight?
     
  6. Becanes

    Becanes Bundle of Energy

    25 April 2002
    Atlanta via South Florida
    Hurricanes, USA, Fulham
    I should be.
     
  7. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    PES 2 will be better
     
  8. Flaw3d Genius

    Flaw3d Genius Banned

    12 October 2011
    Glasgow
    The Rangers
    Christ
     
  9. StuartCulli

    StuartCulli College Dropout

    25 July 2006
    Newcastle United
    DEY SHUD JUST GO BAK TO PES 5 ENGINE
     
  10. Scorpio

    Scorpio Proud member since 2002

    2 November 2002
    Belgium
    Sporting Lokeren
    Nice try Stuart but you just can't pull that off yet... you need to spend more time training in the official FIFA forum. :)
     
  11. tynutsu

    tynutsu League 2

    9 February 2009
    Paisley, Scotland
    Old Firm :)
    I think we should be waiting for more changes in FIFA 2014 because 2012 was started before 2011 and the result was way better :) so they will do 2013 just for ca$h, likely to have little changes from 2012 which is a great result of 2 year work (details on NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC documentary)
    of course I hope I will be wrong and we will have another step forward in football virtuality
     
  12. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    :LOL:

    Wish list:

    Be a Ref
    Headbutt opponent
    Dive
     
  13. PLF

    PLF Legend

    2 August 2004
    :D :LMAO:
     
  14. shoemaker

    shoemaker Banned

    3 October 2010
    Dedicated 2v2 online mode please EA! Also make it ranked that would be nice eh?

    Fed up with sitting in lobbies trying to arrange games when you get Nobbers who dont know what 2v2 means and RUIN it for people who want to play legit.
     
  15. Rob92

    Rob92 Guest

    FIFA 12 is OK with edited sliders, so this may be worth a purchase if they make some substantial gameplay/AI improvements.
     
  16. Suuuuupertalk

    Suuuuupertalk International

    17 August 2010
    Luton Town
    Yeah I think the same, I'll probably still end up getting it at some point, though I'll be thinking twice after constantly buying the game each year then getting bored of it.

    This year's version is so odd, I don't have a bad word to say about it and enjoyed it immensely for a while, but like previous versions of the game, there's something not quite right, something missing, that doesn't make me want to come back and play it. So that's odd, I don't have a bad word to say about the game but at the same time I haven't touched it for a couple of months now.
     
  17. gerd

    gerd Retired Footballer

    8 January 2002
    Over the moon
    KRC Genk, Spurs
    I'm loving it this year...
     
  18. OPM

    OPM ... Staff

    2 June 2003
    Budapest
    .
    yeah, having a good time. hope they improve upon this.
     
  19. beachryan

    beachryan Golden Boot Winner

    4 July 2003
    Bermuda
    Totally agree. I just can't put my finger on why the magic isn't really there, but it isn't. Loved it when it came out though.
     
  20. tc811

    tc811 Resident Evo-Web Retard

    9 January 2008
    United States
    Arsenal FC
    Insert obligatory soul comment...
     
    Last edited: 4 May 2012
  21. broxopios

    broxopios mind the trap

    14 February 2004
    Greece
    AEK Athens
    Fifa 12 have horrible and unrealistic AI in my opinion and every match looks the same. EA have implemented some technical elements very good, like shots, impact engine, passes, but have failed to give us a game with passion and real football feeling.

    I don't care about graphics, new dribbling, or more licenses. I want passion and clever AI. Hope Fifa 13 give us these elements
     
  22. OPM

    OPM ... Staff

    2 June 2003
    Budapest
    .
    more licenses? you can't hold that against ea anymore, they even decreased the number of teams in 12.

    oh wait, that's not good either. :D
     
  23. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    I'll give it a miss. I try to like FIFA every year but it's just not for me.
     
  24. StuartCulli

    StuartCulli College Dropout

    25 July 2006
    Newcastle United
    You'll all end up getting it you bunch of miserable cunts :D
     
  25. OPM

    OPM ... Staff

    2 June 2003
    Budapest
    .
    i've settled with the fact that i enjoy it more, however flawed it might be. just can't go back to konami at this point.
     
  26. Rob92

    Rob92 Guest

    The main problem with FIFA 12 imo is the AI - both your teammates and opponents are too rigid and predictable. The same scenarios play out far too frequently, no matter how much you fiddle with the tactics or sliders.

    The opponent AI seems to be programmed in a reactive nature rather than trying to predict and anticipate - this is blatantly obvious when you use the right stick knock on, the AI simply doesn't expect it and by the time they react they're left with a clean set of heels, especially against the more agile dribblers, it almost feels like cheating.

    In single player I mostly find myself trying to play nice creative/realistic football, until I get bored of that and then just do "what works" against the CPU and then just completely boss the match, even on Legendary.

    In multiplayer it's still very much a casual game, no realistic tactics pay off - a full throttle gung-ho high-tempo attacking short-passing game is the way to go regardless of team rating.

    Without trying to sound like I'm boasting, when I play my mates at pool or snooker, I comfortably win 90%+ of the time because I used to play/watch snooker regularly and I know the tactical side fairly well.
    With racing games, once I get used to the handling I'll usually start lapping my friends due to watching a lot of motorsports and knowing the racing lines/braking points.

    Yet whenever I play FIFA (default settings) against my mates, some of which take almost no interest in football, it's pretty much 50/50. As I said before, I'm not trying to boast, but I have been very interested in football for years, I can play it fairly well and I like to think I have a decent tactical understanding of the game and I think this should count for something in FIFA, but it seemingly doesn't.

    I don't see the point in playing a football game that doesn't replicate football in any substantial way but visuals.
     
  27. StuartCulli

    StuartCulli College Dropout

    25 July 2006
    Newcastle United
    [​IMG]
     
  28. drekkard

    drekkard International

    23 March 2005
    Barcelona
    Barça, Arsenal, Ajax
    The main problem of Fifa at this point is that thinking in footballing terms is usually the worse option for you as a player and the AI is excruciatingly bad, amongst the worse AI designs I have suffered. it doesnt pay off to be creative and it ends up being all too mechanical.

    Some of the situations in finishing may feel exciting for some seconds but the whole midfield game is gone and terribly prone to counterattacks and exploitable to death, as tactics and stats doesnt make a real impact other than speed and strength, so it ends up being as shallow as last generation games.

    So, if they dont realyy put some solid work in this and forget th aesthetics for a year I might gain interest again, but we know this wont happen. They will dedicate 99% of the time to faces, stupid tricks and marketing stuff and a tweak to the AI and thats all.

    I still remeber that video about Vvision stat and how passing would change in Fifa12 and at the end all cpu players can do the same pixel perfect passes no matter their stats. First thing I did was a 180 - turn and pass with a shitty player and it deliver a perfect pass. Not to mention the all new tactical deffense that was a complete waste good for nothing and the collision impact rugby body engone. Come on, it is just ridiculous.
     
    Last edited: 4 May 2012
  29. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    This is the problem for me. FIFA can't elevate itself above a simple football game rather than a game of football, if that makes sense. It's an experience that can be very repetitive and formulaic.

    PES, for all its faults, still requires the player to think football. The gameplay can be quite varied and unpredictable - unfair at times - but challenging. To beat the game you have to think carefully about tactics and team selection, and play the game as you see it in real life.
     
  30. Rob92

    Rob92 Guest

    Well aren't you the clever one using a hilarious meme...
    As I said I used to practice often and play snooker for clubs, obviously I am going to beat people who only play pool when they go to the pub for a drink.

    As I said I'm not boasting, it's just a fact that people who have more practice of a game and know the tactical side will have a clear advantage when it comes to most games/sports.

    FIFA doesn't play up to this though - the way the gameplay works almost makes it an entirely different game in itself rather than a replication of football.

    When I play PES against these same people I have no trouble whatsoever in bossing the entire match with a realistic tactical approach - I can get the ball under control, dictate the pace of the game with my passing, nip their attacks in the bud etc.
    This isn't saying PES is a better game technically, it obviously isn't, but it definitely relies more upon a more thoughtful and methodical way of playing.

    I always give FIFA a chance each year and try the demo, I won't dismiss FIFA 13 yet but EA do seem oblivious to the tactical side of football up until now - to them an "improvement" is just adding more faces, mo-cap or collision systems. For me that just won't cut it, and the only real news we have so far is that the player faces will be improved.
     

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