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FIFA 09: Ultimate Team - DISCUSSION THREAD

Discussion in 'FIFA' started by Tim7, 24 March 2009.

  1. Tim7

    Tim7 Retired Footballer

    6 May 2003
    Gravesend
    Charlton Athletic FC
    I got a decent squad now and they've all got decent contract lengths so hopefully I should be able to put some kind of a run together and save lots of coins!

    Anyone won an online cup yet?
     
    Last edited: 24 March 2009
  2. Placebo

    Placebo Ԁlɐɔǝqo

    3 May 2003
    Esmoriz, Portugal
    Sheffield Wednesday
    Re: FIFA09 Ultimate Team Discussion

    Online is gash.
     
  3. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Got to the semi-final twice, the final once.

    I've started playing the offline cups now on WORLD CLASS, to try and get used to playing online (it feels like playing online then IMO, very similar; you get very little time on the ball and all your passes seem to go to the opposition). Beat the first team in the first offline cup 11-10 on penalties, was really worried I was going out, but then I beat the second team 2-0 in normal time so I'm getting better. ;)
     
  4. Tim7

    Tim7 Retired Footballer

    6 May 2003
    Gravesend
    Charlton Athletic FC
    A simple no would have sufficed ;)). You might come across some nobheads online now and then, but it's still far better than playing against the CPU imo. Nothing comes close to playing against a human opponent, the way humans think is different every match, while the AI changes now and then it doesn't have the variety humans have, also playing offline is always against a real team, online it's your team against another ultimate team. Much better :)).
     
  5. DagsJT

    DagsJT Retired Footballer

    29 November 2005
    Warrington
    Liverpool
    Given up playing online, full of kids with speed-merchant strikers and no football actually being played.
     
  6. Tim7

    Tim7 Retired Footballer

    6 May 2003
    Gravesend
    Charlton Athletic FC
    Disagree Dags I've played some brilliantly close matches online. Like I said, just spend the extra 5/10mins looking for an evenly matched game and you can get amazing games.
     
  7. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    I disagree Tim (agree with Placebo/Dags). Seriously, out of 24 games online, 22 have been exactly the same game. Like watching a video of the same football match 22 times. This is whether it's 1-star v 1-star or 4-star v 5-star or any combination you like.

    They pass out of defence because being fully-assisted there's no risk of me intercepting the ball and scoring, they pinball the ball around midfield like they're on speed, then a ball to the winger, a cutback and a goal. And again, and again, and again. (Except for the occasions where they have Speedy Gonzalez up-front in which case it's a ball over the top to him leaving your defenders treading water, again and again and again.) There's no real football involved!

    You can set your tactics to pressing to try and cut it out, but your players never get close enough; you tell them to back off to try and contain them for a minute, but they still seem to run up the pitch after players leaving you wide open. It's utter garbage - not because of EA, because of the amount of kids who play it and know how to exploit the game now.

    Like you said the other day, FIFA 10 needs to match you up with people who use the same control method as you, or at least let you see what they're using before the game starts so you have the opportunity to find someone else. Offline play FTW.
     
    Last edited: 24 March 2009
  8. DagsJT

    DagsJT Retired Footballer

    29 November 2005
    Warrington
    Liverpool
    What's the point in spending 10 mins looking for a 3-star team ... only to start and find Henry up front or some other Usain Bolt speedster who just gets the ball to his feet and he sprints off? It happens FAR too much and online is a chore.

    Offline AI is great as it is I think. Online is shite unless you know who you're playing against.
     
  9. CW

    CW C Dub Founding Member

    6 October 2001
    Liverpool
    Just played the first round in an Online Cup, my 1 star team against a 3 star team and I hammered him.

    I can see where the guys who don't like playing online are coming from as I got totally bummed by some twat online last night 9-0 who had Eto'o up front and it was like my defenders were running backwards trying to catch him. They did catch him a couple of times though not in a legal way with both of them getting :R1
     
  10. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    That's the thing, I've got Alex and Jagielka as CBs and I've found out you're better off playing crappy bronze defenders with pace of at least 85-90. Otherwise your "world class defenders" watch the strikers blaze past them like they're not there.

    It reminds me of playing Euro 2008 online all over again, there are some ridiculous scorelines.
     
  11. YoungGun_UK

    YoungGun_UK 20 TIMES!

    12 July 2007
    UK
    Manchester United
    Hmmm seems fine to me, I won Bronze tournament yesterday where I had some extremely close games. I think my squad is gonna get ripped up soon :(( to many of them on their last games.
     
  12. Placebo

    Placebo Ԁlɐɔǝqo

    3 May 2003
    Esmoriz, Portugal
    Sheffield Wednesday
    Re: FIFA09 Ultimate Team Discussion

    Taken from the FSB forums:

     
  13. YoungGun_UK

    YoungGun_UK 20 TIMES!

    12 July 2007
    UK
    Manchester United
    Good to know, can avoid the fecker.
     
  14. Bitter Rivals

    Bitter Rivals International

    24 January 2005
    Re: FIFA09 Ultimate Team Discussion

    but that isn't impossible to win the ball back , yes it is friggin annoying and is very lame, but you can push right up and press, try and force him to misplace a pass..

    blocking space via player switching instead of soley closing down the ball
     
  15. pepper63

    pepper63 Nice N Sleazy

    19 May 2005
    Your Sisters Bedroom
    Only One Man Utd.
    A few more manual players on lastnight had some cracking games.I find the keepers to be a bit like euro2008 as they don't catch the ball alot,or maybe my keeper is just shit.:CONFUSE:
     
  16. Coopz

    Coopz Retired Footballer

    27 April 2002
    Re: FIFA09 Ultimate Team Discussion

    Also just because one person agrees with you don't mean your right ;)

    Online is easliy the best way to play games because the AI just don't cut it in any way shape or form compared to us Humans :)

    Back on topic, i was gonna get this but it seems like you lot have decent teams already so the longevity seems very very short for this mode
     
  17. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    It's not like playing a human in this though, it's like playing piss-poor AI that doesn't know how to play real football, and doesn't know any other way to play than pinball-styleé. It's the same game every game. At least in other games you get variation when you play against real people. The game just helps them exploit the system too much.

    Each to their own anyway, I am still playing it online, just still waiting to meet someone who doesn't have auto-passing on...
     
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  18. Shooto

    Shooto Champions League

    16 April 2002
    Paisley
    Im with Tim and CW on this one I think.

    With all FIFA modes, I prefer playing online games, to me there is something missing when you play vs the AI. I am sure it is great, but I feel better about beating an online opponent. Especially when they are using crappy tactics.

    You could always join our party and use the "3..2..1..Now!" method of trying to play each other :)

    So sounds like some like online, some like offline. At least EA give us the option to choose the one you like.
     
  19. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Yeah but if they gave us the option of seeing what control method the other guy is using then some of us would like both online and offline...

    That's the most frustrating thing, it's so close to being practically perfect. All it needs is a system that means you can stay as a 1-star team for a while and only be put up against similar teams (no 5-stars until you're at least 4-stars), and an indicator that tells you if your opponent is using manual/semi/assisted passing/shooting/etc...

    Surely it's not hard to implement a piece of text that reads the controller settings the other person is using so that you can block out as many of the fully-assisted kids as possible?

    Then you'd never see me playing offline again!
     
  20. pboreham

    pboreham Kick. Snare. Hat. Ride.

    5 August 2002
    C*lchester
    Southend Utd
    Make you right Chris. A system like Forza 2, where you can only enter a race if you are a certain rank.

    You should only be able to play people your stars or above, till your players push you up to a 2 star team, then 3 star etc.

    And you should be able to search by control scheme - thing is, I prefer playing 'friends' to randoms anyway, so least that way you know what you are getting.
     
  21. Shooto

    Shooto Champions League

    16 April 2002
    Paisley
    Yeah I agree.

    we can only hope they will eventually get fed up using Assisted :)
     
  22. Joe

    Joe International

    9 August 2004
    so much for Ulitmate Team discussion!
     
  23. Placebo

    Placebo Ԁlɐɔǝqo

    3 May 2003
    Esmoriz, Portugal
    Sheffield Wednesday
    Re: FIFA09 Ultimate Team Discussion

    That's one quote from one person, could find 100s more if I was so inclined. Or I could just post you a link to the GK glitch video.......
     
  24. Coopz

    Coopz Retired Footballer

    27 April 2002
    Whatever you post wouldn't change my mind about how good online play is

    If we were in the 90's you may have a case but in this day and age online is the way to play games
     
  25. Placebo

    Placebo Ԁlɐɔǝqo

    3 May 2003
    Esmoriz, Portugal
    Sheffield Wednesday
    If you enjoy playing online against all assisted 5* teams, kick off shooters, glitch abusers then I'm very happy for you.....

    Me I'll stick to my manager mode thank you very much :)
     
  26. DagsJT

    DagsJT Retired Footballer

    29 November 2005
    Warrington
    Liverpool
    Completely disagree, Coopz. Online is certainly not the way to play games yet. It will be when we get given all of the tools to enable fair online play, and that can be done today if EA wanted to. But until then, offline is the way to play.
     
  27. Coopz

    Coopz Retired Footballer

    27 April 2002
    Yeah obviously they piss me off but most of the time you get normal players who play fair on most games

    I would love to be able to go down the mic and slap the little cheating twats though, i cant see why they enjoy playing that way either
     
  28. DagsJT

    DagsJT Retired Footballer

    29 November 2005
    Warrington
    Liverpool
    :TU:
     
  29. Joe

    Joe International

    9 August 2004
  30. Coopz

    Coopz Retired Footballer

    27 April 2002
    So you think offline with its standard AI on your todd is better than online with mates and the human brain setting all the variables?
     

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