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FIFA 08 (Last Gen-Including PC)

Discussion in 'FIFA' started by CW, 1 September 2007.

  1. CW

    CW C Dub Founding Member

    6 October 2001
    Liverpool
    To stop the FIFA 08 topic for the next gen consoles being clogged up with all the chat on the PC version of the game lets give it its own thread.

    Feel free to chat all your gubbins about graphics cards, whether your pc is good enough to run it and all the other shite in here
     
  2. Coopz

    Coopz Retired Footballer

    27 April 2002
    Originally posted by placebo

    Most likely everyone who wants the PC demo has it by now but I just posted this to a Singaporean gaming forum so figured I'd spam it here too:

    You can download the demo from here:

    http://www.fifa4fans.de/downloads/on...php?showid=665
    http://www.gamershell.com/news/41320.html
    http://www.3dgamers.com/games/fifa08/
    http://largedownloads.ea.com/pub/demos/Fifa/08/
    http://www.3dgamers.com/games/fifa08/downloads/


    Fifa4fans also released a demo expander which opens up a lot more possibility to enjoy the demo:

    http://www.fifa4fans.de/downloads/on...php?showid=666

    This Demo Expander v1.0 make it possible to change some settings of the FIFA 08 Demo:

    - change the resolution
    - change the difficulty
    - change the details
    - endless game on/off
    - window mode on/off
    - one on one on/off
    - referee and linesmen visible / invisible
    - Quickstart possibility
    - enable substitutions
    - kit selection (home/away)
    - select the game speed (slower + normal)
     
  3. gecko14

    gecko14 Evo-league Mod

    19 November 2005
    @Coopz: Your copy/paste from Placebo's post wasn't done well, some links don't work...
     
  4. Coopz

    Coopz Retired Footballer

    27 April 2002
    They are the exact links that hes posted mate so i cant do anymore
     
  5. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    No Coopz, he means the links with "..." in the middle have clickable URLs that shouldn't have "..." in the middle. If you quoted his post exactly it wouldn't be that way.
     
  6. Placebo

    Placebo Ԁlɐɔǝqo

    3 May 2003
    Esmoriz, Portugal
    Sheffield Wednesday
    Last edited: 1 September 2007
  7. Lami

    Lami Niche Football Staff

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    I scored a weird goal straight from a cross. It felt good :D
     
  8. tekkan

    tekkan League 2

    19 September 2006
    UK / Manchester
    Manchester United
    Can some1 please tell me which is the fastest link?
    thnx
     
  9. Placebo

    Placebo Ԁlɐɔǝqo

    3 May 2003
    Esmoriz, Portugal
    Sheffield Wednesday
    The one which gives you the most kb per second.
     
  10. StayingPower

    StayingPower Premiership

    2 April 2006
    Houston
    Manchester United
    My Review of the Demo:

    Haven't played much, but from what I can tell it's a bit of an improvement over 07.

    Passing is better and feels much sharper. I like how much harder the passes are, better than PES in that respect. Not quite sure how the manual passing is supposed to work, maybe I'm doing something wrong?

    Also not sure about the defensive controls, the right stick man changing is useless as it's hard to be precise, I just stick to the right trigger for change man and use pressure and 2nd man pressure. Couldn't figure out how to control my keeper with the right stick on breakaway's and free kicks, if someone will enlighten me on that issue it'd be great =)

    Graphics are so so, a bit sharper textures maybe, and I like the new winter setting with the snow faintly falling, it's a nice touch.

    Don't know what's going on with the shooting. Every shot seems to use the same animation, and it's like an outside of the foot shot with unbelievable power on it, doesn't look realistic at all. I haven't scored yet on amateur, and I'm used to trouncing the AI on Legendary. Every shot either goes wide or is fingertip saved by the keeper.

    There's a few new sounds but nothing really noteworthy aside from some nice trumpet effects and some specialised player commentary ('Rooney won't be happy with that one' ; 'Ronaldo under pressure from the defense here').

    Overall, a bit of an improvement over 07, aside from the shooting which is different, but not better or worse. Doesn't really seem worth buying if you have 07. I might pick it up for $20 but I certainly won't be paying full price. PES is still the benchmark for PC football gaming, and it looks like it'll stay that way in 08. Bring on PES 2008 and next-gen Fifa 09.

    Graphics: 6/10
    Sound: 9/10
    Presentation: 9/10
    Gameplay: 7/10
    Overall: 7/10
     
  11. tekkan

    tekkan League 2

    19 September 2006
    UK / Manchester
    Manchester United
    Why didnt they make pc version same as next gen?
    Did EA give a reason?
     
  12. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    They say their next gen game is too powerful for most PCs (not just the graphics engine but the AI engine).
     
  13. Disqo

    Disqo Championship

    25 June 2002
    I personally do not believe it, I can't imagine it will be any more demanding than Bioshock and Crysis on PC hardware
     
  14. djdoc

    djdoc Guest

    Disqo, yeh but they need a big machine to run them, the average Joe who plays PC games probably doesnt have that sorta power.
     
  15. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Plus you're looking at equal AI for 22 different people at once, all of equal priority. I don't like that they're not putting the next-gen engine on PC, especially when Konami have managed it, but if it was the other way around nobody would be criticising Konami... Some would obviously, but I have a feeling that the majority of this board wouldn't. The physics engine in PES, which is still PSone underneath with a ton of addons screwed in, is totally different to the rewritten FIFA next-gen code (whether you think it's great or it's shite), so it's understandable. I think.
     
  16. Bingham67

    Bingham67 Champions League

    17 July 2005
    Watch Fifa 09 be next gen on PC or next Uefa Champions League game be next gen on PC. It wont be long before EA follow suit what with Konami bringing theres to next gen.

    No way that engine to powerful for PC if indeed that turns out to be true i will be very very surprised.
     
  17. StayingPower

    StayingPower Premiership

    2 April 2006
    Houston
    Manchester United
    It's not that it's too powerful for a PC, it's that it's too powerful for Average Joe's Dell.
     
  18. Bingham67

    Bingham67 Champions League

    17 July 2005
    Thats what optimization for so it can run across a broad spec of systems ala Crysis. :)

    Im pretty sure that EA will make a next gen game even if it has to be built from ground up for PC. We shall see what they do with next Uefa or Fifa dont see it being that long.
     
  19. StayingPower

    StayingPower Premiership

    2 April 2006
    Houston
    Manchester United
    Well Average Joe's Dell would explode if Crysis came anywhere near it =P

    09 will be next-gen, if I remember correctly
     
  20. Lami

    Lami Niche Football Staff

    28 May 2007
    Sydney
    Man Utd, Vecchia Signora
    EA are forcing people to buy 360s or PS3s to play their nextgen game. That's cuntic.
     
  21. Bingham67

    Bingham67 Champions League

    17 July 2005
    Of course it would but thats not what im saying if you want to play Crysis your not exactly someone with an average Joe dell.

    But Crysis will run on a fairly decent system because its been optimized across alot of systems. You not going to see 8800gtx and Quad core kind of performance but will run ok on system like 7800- 7900gtx.

    Thing is games now are becoming more powerful and if you want to have the best performance and for developers to deliver better games people need to follow them. Ye its abit crappy fro people with old systems but its the harsh reality im afraid technology gets bigger and better and games progress.

    Thats why alot of people buy consoles because cant afford to keep upgrading which is fair do's.
     
    Last edited: 1 September 2007
  22. Adonis

    Adonis Guest

    are there pics available? I might d/l it seeing as Milan are in there...
     
  23. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Adonis, just look up screenshots of FIFA 07 on PC. The graphics engine (and the game!) is the same.
     
  24. Adonis

    Adonis Guest

    Yeah just spotted some pics in a different forum. Still might give it a bash to see how the gameplay holds up. I like to play all versions so Im clued up. Not that big of a file either.
     
  25. Disqo

    Disqo Championship

    25 June 2002
    I agree, guess I am disappionted because I always upgrade & I do not have a ''average Joe pc'' and I will be able to run Crysis very well
     
  26. StayingPower

    StayingPower Premiership

    2 April 2006
    Houston
    Manchester United
    There's nothing really to argue about. 08 isn't next gen because EA thinks not enough people have a good enough computer.
     
  27. Rob92

    Rob92 Guest

    EA are twats, it simply isn't fair to keep giving us PC players the same shit year after year with a database update. They know it sucks, we know it sucks, and they do nothing. They should build a new engine if the current one isn't good enough.
    Next-gen looks just like a graphic update anyway.

    Well done to Konami for making an effort on the PC version...
     
  28. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    Bit unfair, this is the first year that Konami have done it. And if they hadn't I'm sure Konami wouldn't get half the complaints that EA will. It amazes me how "lenient" people are with Konami, my brother-in-law buys PES every year without even trying a demo, is sometimes disappointed with the game but then says "they deserve my money anyway". What? They make a game, you prefer the last one, but they deserve your money anyway? It's very odd.
     
    Last edited: 3 September 2007
  29. Rob92

    Rob92 Guest

    Yeah that is a bit silly, they don't just deserve our money because a past version was good, if that was so, EA would deserve our money from Fifa 98 RTWC (loved that game at the time).
    Konami do deserve some credit though for trying a next-gen PC version.

    You can have all this "Be a Pro", Manager Mode and Interactive Leagues but if what goes on on the pitch sucks, then the whole thing is just forgotten about and is a bore. Fifa, even next-gen, has poor general gameplay (shooting, passing, dribbling) which just puts me off it altogether.

    I am not one of those people that will buy PES just for it's name or slag off Fifa before I have seen anything of it at all but I never expect as much from EA for any game, they seem to be in it ONLY for the money in whatever they do.
     
  30. Chris Davies

    Chris Davies At least, I think I am Staff

    14 May 2003
    Tranmere Rovers
    I'll admit that most EA SPORTS games I have problems with - just got Tiger Woods and rather than go for realism, your "career" starts off with "bingo bango bongo" matches v Justin Rose. You start your career dicking around with tour pros, who happily play with you despite the fact they'll never have heard of you since this is your first game of golf? No chance. Everybody's Golf on the PS3 is miles better. One problem though; I don't have a PS3.

    I personally loved UEFA CL however - I play the demo now and I just think, I love this. When I first got UEFA CL, for a month solid I'd wake up and think "I can't wait to play UEFA today". The last time I was like that with PES was something like five years ago.

    Of course, what's on the pitch is most important, but personally I can see FIFA 08 being great. I liked UEFA CL already, and now that the passing and shooting have had complete reworking (two areas you said yourself were poor), and now that the tricks have been added (which you can only pull off with good enough players), I'm very excited. Whereas PES is still PES, a game which I've been bored of for years. The game is great but honestly I don't see the point in buying the new versions - I can pull out PES3/4/5 and play virtually the same game as PES6 and, I'm sure, PES2008. What EA are doing with FIFA is new and what I would consider "next-gen"; fully manual movement, passing, shooting, the lot. I'd rather play a buggy game trying to do something new, than play a less-buggy game that I've been playing for ten years with about twenty tweaks. But I can understand why people would want to play something that is less adventurous - because it's good at what it does.
     

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