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Building my own PC...

Discussion in 'Technology' started by kevano22, 15 August 2007.

  1. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    Hi men.

    I'm looking at putting together my own PC. I am going to be spending around £500-£600 just on the base unit.

    I've had some advice from Kenny M, but im just posting here incase anyone has some vital information they could share.

    I have made this list, if you get a chance, would you please have a look at the components and confirm (if you know what your talking about, lol), that this would be a high spec PC for a reasonable amount.

    I'm pretty sure it is, but I just want to make sure.

    Comes out at about £550-£600 with one of each component, just dont know which ones to choose! Any recomendations?

    Thanks, I look forward to hearing from anyone who helps. Thanks to Kenny M to for helping me in PM's :)

    Cases

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=134904

    http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=108008


    PSU

    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/90609/rb/0

    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/112899

    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/123113

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=386404

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=375884

    Motherboard
    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/125082

    CPU

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=530347
    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/124869
    http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=330169

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=632056
    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/130483/rb/0
    http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=338084

    Heatsink for CPU

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=256319&source=froogle


    RAM

    http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=312023&CKS=PCW
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=291363

    GFX

    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126570
    http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=334578&CKS=PCW
    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/127344
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=576205
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=575254
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=575220

    Don’t need HDD

    Don’t know about DVD writers there are loads, any suggestions (Under £25)

    Sound Cards (just a basic under £25 one)

    http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=312201&view=detailed

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=292191

    Now... which ones do I choose??!?!?!?!?!
     
  2. MonkeyJug

    MonkeyJug Steering 747s Up Above U!

    15 December 2001
    Southampton
    Glasgow Rangers
    had a quick look.

    you're getting the correct cpu anyway (but if you can, go for the G0 stepping model), and for the dvd writer, i'd go for the pioneer 112d (it can burn xbox 360 and wii games). i'd change the sound card though, and go for a creative x-fi (they are cheap as chips nowadays)

    i'll have a look again when i have more time...
     
  3. Abhishek

    Abhishek Best player in the world

    29 January 2006
    India
    Liverpool
    Here's my suggestions

    Motherboard: I won't suggest the P5N-E Mobo. Get the new P35 chipsets. You can get this

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=605377

    Awesome overclocker, plenty of features, great performance.

    Processor: Well, if you are more into gaming, you shouldn't really get the Q6600. Most apps and games don't use all 4 cores, except rendering and other graphic intensive programmes. You can get the E6850, but my suggestion would be the the E6750. There isn't much difference in performance, E6750 overclocks really well, and you can spend the money saved here on some good quality RAM.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=632054

    Heatsink: I haven't used Zalman products, but heard really great things about them. So, this one is fine..

    RAM: Well this is one area, where should never compromise, especially if you are going to overclock. I would suggest get some good quality DDR800 RAM with D9 Micron chips. I would advise the following-

    http://www.memoryc.com/products/des...C2_6400_HZ_Series_Dual_Channel_kit/index.html

    GFX Card: DONT get the 8600GTS chipsets. Very average performers for the price. Get either the XFX 8600GT Fatal1ty edition cards (which are almost as good, but cheaper), or spend some more, and get an 8800GTS 320MB card.

    Sound Card: The one you have selected are ok, if you can increase the budget, get this. Awesome sound card for the price.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=579624

    Case: Both of them are good, get the one that is bigger.

    PSU-Apart from Antec, all of them are quality PSUs. If you can, get this

    http://www.memoryc.com/products/des...Power_Supply_SLI_Ready-UK_version_/index.html
     
    Last edited: 16 August 2007
  4. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    Cheers Abhishek

    The GFX Card is quite a bit more expensive...is it really worth it?

    Will the 8600GTS play the next gen games (ala PES2008) on the PC with no trouble?

    also, not really bothered about sound cards. Will look at getting some good quality RAM also.

    Will report back after i've had another look round.

    I will get that Mobo you suggested too :)
     
  5. Abhishek

    Abhishek Best player in the world

    29 January 2006
    India
    Liverpool
    Well, as I said, get either the 8600GT or 8800GTS, 8600GTS is not worth the price. Another thing you can do is get a high end DirectX 9 card like a 7900GT. Similar price to 8600GTS, but better performance. Then upgrade again early next year when the 9xxx series release, which will be TRUE DX10 graphic cards.

    Or else, if you don't want to upgrade again, get a 8600GT Fatal1ty card, which is as good as 8600GTS, but cheaper.

    And yes, all the cards Ive mentioned should be able to PES2008 at low-medium settings.
     
  6. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    low-medium :|

    I dunno what to do, I'll have a look at the Fatal1ty card I guess... I dont wanna keep upgrading, just want a system that will play all the games with ease really.
     
  7. Abhishek

    Abhishek Best player in the world

    29 January 2006
    India
    Liverpool
    Well, the 8600GT should be able to handle most DX9 games at medium settings. But, about future DX10 games, well, I myself am waiting for the 9xxx series release. It's not a good time to buy a future proof card.
     
  8. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    Last edited: 16 August 2007
  9. Abhishek

    Abhishek Best player in the world

    29 January 2006
    India
    Liverpool
    Well, hopefully it will. The thing is, the 128-bit architecture is really holding Nvidia back.

    Hopefully, there will be some driver updates for the 8600GT, so that it can play next gen games at reasonable frame rates. It also depends on how the games are optimized. Im sure game devs will try their best to make games work on the mid range cards. Not everyone has top of the end cards. Anyways, 8600GT Fatal1ty is a brilliant card for the price, and a great DX9 card. Still, I think it would work best as a temporary card till the new cards release.
     
  10. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
  11. Abhishek

    Abhishek Best player in the world

    29 January 2006
    India
    Liverpool
    Yeh, the Abit IP35 Pro is a superb motherboard. But, it's a bit more expensive than the DS3R.
     
  12. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Or he could go for IP35 normal, or even lower IP35-E.
     
  13. Ret KiT

    Ret KiT Premiership

    25 March 2007
    any advices for a good motherboard for amd? the one currently have runs it like a jet sound is horrible!
     
  14. djdoc

    djdoc Guest

    Runs like a jet and sounds horrible? that could just be your CPU Fan as your CPU "Runs Hot!" Mine does that when im encoding HD Video on my PC. I wouldnt change the MB Id try a new fan first!
     
  15. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
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    Hows this spec looking guys? Do I need to add anything else (I have own HDD and OS)

    Comes out at around £565.

    Also, this spec looked ok from pc specialtst.

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    Comes to £588 inc VAT, Build AND Delivery. The case looks class too.

    Any suggestions?
     
    Last edited: 17 August 2007
  16. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    Last edited: 18 August 2007
  17. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    Last edited: 18 August 2007
  18. Abhishek

    Abhishek Best player in the world

    29 January 2006
    India
    Liverpool
    PC looks pretty good. Only thing I would change is the memory. Get atleast PC26400. Get either the one I linked to you earlier, or get this

    http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=312367

    Believe me, it will be worth it.

    And that 8600GT Fatal1ty will be as good as the 8600GTS. Go for it.
     
    Last edited: 18 August 2007
  19. Ret KiT

    Ret KiT Premiership

    25 March 2007
    actually i've changed and got a new fan , sound reduced but still a jet :D also temp is around 30-35degrees... any other external way to connect to silent?
     
    Last edited: 18 August 2007
  20. Kenny M

    Kenny M Guest

    hehe, i told you most games don't use the 4 cores atm, but you didn't listen to me. ;)

    good luck building your new pc.

    i don't want to say too much, as too many cooks spoil the broth.
     
  21. djdoc

    djdoc Guest

    Kenny is right though, why the heck do you need Quad Core? are you doing what im doing? Editing Hi Def video and Audio? or are you running software which pushes a Dual Core Processor too hard? To be honest right now I can see no reason to have Quad Core...
     
  22. djdoc

    djdoc Guest

    That temp sounds ok, what I would say though is when my machine works hard (Vista shows me on the side bar how much CPU is being used) the fan speeds up and sounds like a jet fighter!
     
  23. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    Hey Kenny I did listen to you! I'm gonna go with the E6750! It's always good to hear the opinions of others.

    Im off to Disneyland Paris on Monday so when I get back on the Saturday I will probably come back here for some final thoughts before I purchase :)

    BTW, do you advise using PCSpecialist or Getting the parts indiviudally from scan/komplett?
     
  24. Kenny M

    Kenny M Guest

    hehe! i was joking :)

    i have never used pc specialist so i can't help you there.

    i have bought from scan and komplett and both are great.

    if your feeling lazy then go with pc specialist.

    if your feeling bored, then build your own and go with scan/komplett. :)
     
  25. MonkeyJug

    MonkeyJug Steering 747s Up Above U!

    15 December 2001
    Southampton
    Glasgow Rangers
    it's probably your northbridge fan. the one on my £200 motherboard screamed like a bitch. it was only 40mm but was lounder than the other 7 fans that were in my case!

    i got a scythe mini-kaze from ebay for a fiver and it sorted the noise right out...
     
  26. MonkeyJug

    MonkeyJug Steering 747s Up Above U!

    15 December 2001
    Southampton
    Glasgow Rangers
    build your own, all the way mate!

    it's simple - just like mechano...
     
  27. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Which motherboard did you use?

    I need a mobo for one of my builds, Socket 775, can spend upto £70 on it, no need for onboard GFX card, and doesn't need to be too fancy really.
     
  28. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    Im back guys.

    Looks like I'm selling this PC a week today, so I need to start the hunt for a new computer and fast.

    I'm almost certain I wanna get it pre built off komplett now. Peter Eyres ordered a v.good system for £700 off them and can only recommend it.

    http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=42612

    Now to search for parts! I am going to go with as many recommendations as possible from this thread, if you have anymore get posting them!
     
  29. kevano22

    kevano22 TDWFYU

    2 August 2003
    326843

    Komplett Intel Extreme

    Article number: 326843
    Norman IC, 1 year license Virus Control,
    PC box
    SoftThinks Installation software,
    NZXT Apollo Orange,steel Chassi w/window
    NorthQ 4775-500S, ATX 500W Silent, 140mm
    MSI P6N SLI-FI V2, nForce-650i SLI,
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.67GHz 1333Mhz
    Corsair TWIN2X 6400C4 DDR2, 2048MB CL4,
    Gainward GeForce 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 GS,
    Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 500GB SATA2
    NEC DVD±RW burner AD-7173 IDE Silver
    Creative SB Audigy SE
    PC with no operating system
    Stock status: 1 stocked

    £592.88 + £13 delivery

    What do you think guys?
     
  30. Abhishek

    Abhishek Best player in the world

    29 January 2006
    India
    Liverpool

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