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Best HD LCD TV for Pro Evo - i need help please!!

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer - PC, PS2, PSP, Wii, DS' started by gurjisfit, 8 October 2006.

  1. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003
    I've just bought a samsung 26" HD LCD - the one they're using to demo PES 6 everywhere on 360. But on my TV, when playing any sports games on PS2 (PES5) or 360 (NBA2K6) there's quite a bit of blurring whenever there's horizontal movement i.e. pass from left to right. (When watching football on tv, the blurring is ridiculous!)

    Thinking of taking it back - apparently Microsoft only use this TV as it's cheap and blurring is common.

    So, firstly, that's a warning for others. But can any1 help with which TV minimises this blurring/ghosting - i'm looking at the Sony Bravia and Panasonic Viera's now - thanks all for your help and apologies for long post!!
     
  2. raul_ole

    raul_ole Championship

    11 August 2005
    POLAND
    ! REAL MADRID !
    one of the best tvs is SONY BRAVIA V2000
     
  3. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003

    Thanks for the reply mate - does that still bring blurring on evo or is there none at all? on my samsung it was so bad i had to stop playing after a few minutes.
     
  4. cbbcisace

    cbbcisace Non-League

    3 February 2006
    I just bought the panasonic 26" and thats a slight blur on it, i think i read somewhere that all HD tv's have slight blurs on individual games.
     
  5. raul_ole

    raul_ole Championship

    11 August 2005
    POLAND
    ! REAL MADRID !
    Last edited: 8 October 2006
  6. nad2dare

    nad2dare League 1

    13 January 2005
    United Kingdom
    Arsenal,Barc,Juve,Mu,Rmad
    Did you try the "gamemode" option on your samsung hdtv ?
     
  7. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003

    I did - makes no diff at all - thanks for help bud!
     
  8. Gotrunk25

    Gotrunk25 Conference

    8 February 2003
    Mate, I have a samsung and think it's perfect. How do you connect your console ? YUV or scart ? that goes for the ps2 aswell.
    Scart is just crap on this sort of tvs.
     
  9. valdemaniak

    valdemaniak Non-League

    30 December 2005
    what do you mean by YUV... my ps2 is connected by scart and it's pretty well (for a lcd tv) but could be better - so if you have any idea?

    my xbox360 shows awesome graphics on this tv without any blurr or stutter at all - so bring on PES6
    (I have a samsung 32" lcdtv - I think the 32LR series they're called)
     
  10. Gotrunk25

    Gotrunk25 Conference

    8 February 2003
    SOrry, but terms differ in different languages :) by YUV I meant component.See here :
    http://pileps.free.fr/Alpha/games/compo.jpg
    That's the best way to connect your console to a LCD screen, apart from HDMI of course, which ps2 doesn't have, and not yet for the 360.
     
  11. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003

    By HD Component. The game i tried on 360 was NBA 2K6 - any quick pass from back to front of attach made evrything on screen blur - may not wait to try PES6 on it cos PES5 on ps2 was so bad.

    Local retailers have been warning people of these TV's as they are so bad at coping with fast moving graphics - i'm not a nit-picker at all - the blur makes you dizzy!!!

    Thanks for advice.
     
  12. raul_ole

    raul_ole Championship

    11 August 2005
    POLAND
    ! REAL MADRID !
    the best quality gives VGA !
     
  13. Andreas

    Andreas Moderator

    2 August 2003
    Maybe this is a stupid question, but have you switched to HDTV mode on the HD cable? And have you changed the HD settings in the console settings?
     
  14. nad2dare

    nad2dare League 1

    13 January 2005
    United Kingdom
    Arsenal,Barc,Juve,Mu,Rmad
    Well I have a Samsung HDTV 26"

    I connect my Xbox360 with component running at 1080i, the games look fantastic.

    I connect my PS2 with RGB SCART the games look, like PS1 games, & that both with/without gamemode on.

    Aparently if you want to get the best picture out of your PS2 you need to use component cable.

    Although I have both WE10 & PES 4/5, I found out that WE10 runs fast with/without game mode switch on because the game is running at 60HZ

    However if your playing PES4/5, make sure you select 50Z with gamemode on as it seems to reduce the speed of the game.
     
  15. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003

    Have done - no picture if don't! The quality of th epicture is fine - it's just stupidly blurred when picture has to move horizontally!!
     
  16. salad

    salad Non-League

    24 March 2005

    26" is too small for me, i got philips 37", looking fine both for gaming and regular tv, it's awesome watch football in HD on sunday. and all the shows like csi, lost, small ville etc, they're all on HD, and i aint got no cable or dish network, just regular antena. the 42" dlp from samsung looks fine playing game too( got that for my living room, the 37" philips is for my bedroom).
     
  17. valdemaniak

    valdemaniak Non-League

    30 December 2005
    looks to me you've got a bad set, talk to your retailer to replace it. I have the nba2k6 as well, one of the best looking games on the box mate - no screen blur whatsoever

    as far as I know all samsungs work extremely well with the 360... (and even MS isn't so stupid to pick a set with high latency to make all their promo)
     
  18. ibu2003

    ibu2003 Competition Killer

    2 August 2003
    London
    Newcastle United
    PES5 on PS2 and basically any ps2 game will look dirt on an lcd tv or plasma for that matter. The PS2 does its games at such low resolutions that when it is stretched out and with the colour depth and screen fidelity it shows up every negative about the PS2 gfx capabilities. Try MGS3 that looks like mud has been thrown at your screen, basically the TV is far too good to display anything as cheap (not a dig btw) as the ps2, its like playing VHS on plasma you can't expect DVD or even HDDVD like results.

    Your picture is only ever as good as the signal your putting into it, I got the same Samsung tele when it came out, I use it as a PC monitor and and also as a my gaming and movie watching rig. It has no problems with screen blur when anything is played via component or VGA, it does when RGB or AV Scart is used though; these are cheaper out of date (increasingly) signal carriers. HDMI is going to become more widely available soon, you will see an improved quality there.

    But if you can afford the Bravia V2000 I would have got that one straight away as the Samsung tele is now almost a year old, which is an age in tech terms nowadays.
     
  19. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003


    I'm using a HD component with the 360 - everytime i play a sideways pass, the screen blurs, then refocuses once the receiver gets it. I've got the newer samsung model but i've heard it's basically the same as the earlier model.

    I'm going to send it back - i'm looking at the 26" JVC DX7BJ which has a response rate of 7m/s which will hopefully sort out screen blur - T.V's in bedroom so 32"bravia V2000 may be too big!

    Appreciate advice - thanks.
     
  20. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    Tough one there. I would try to get the Sony 26S2010/26S2020/26S2030 i.e. 10/20/30 are just different colours or the Toshiba 26WLT66. They are top of the range for 26" size :)
     
  21. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003

    Thats's what i'm thinking - Cheers!
     
  22. heartless

    heartless Non-League

    10 September 2005
    THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TV,ITS TO DO WITH VSYNCH ON THE GAMES ,SOME HAVE IT ON OBLIVION,PGR3 COD2,HITMAN,FIGHT NIGHT3. ECT ECT ,BUT SOME HAVE IT OFF!PDZ,GRAW.MOTO GP 3,THE GAMES YOU DESCRIBED AND A FEW OTHERS

    LOOK AT DEAD RISING ,HAS IT ON AND THE GUYS WITH REGULAR TELLYS CANT READ THE TEXT!BUT IF THIS HAD IT OF IT WOULD BE A VERY CRAP LOOKING RIP FEST

    ITS JUST LAZY DEVOLPERS CUTTING A FEW WEEKS OF THE DEVOLPMENT TIME OFF A GAME

    IT DONT MATTER IF ITS A SONY,SAMSUNG,PANASONIC,OR £7000 POINEER IT STILL WILL DO IT!
     
  23. gurjisfit

    gurjisfit League 2

    11 November 2003

    Thanks for that! Do reckon we'll get this with PES6 on 360? Doesn't seem to be any blur on the internet videos we've all seen - espacially on the XBOXYDE ones that are the clearest...........
     
  24. ash

    ash DeMinistrator

    21 March 2004
    London
    Man Utd
    :roll:
    The problem with Dead Rising is those with SDTV, he has a 26" HDTV. And I have played a lot of those games on my plasma and LCD with no problems. It is the LCD, poor responsee rates, and it is commonoly known that LCD has smearing problems.

    And whats with the caps lock?
     
  25. gomito#10

    gomito#10 World Cup Winner

    9 May 2003
    DC, USA
    bullshit, you need a component cable son...WE10 looks perfect on my Sharp 37 inch LCD HD.... so do all of my other games.... it all depends on your tv... your generalizing way too much.....
     
  26. marsmanic

    marsmanic Patchin' N00b

    1 May 2006
    Morecambe!
    Blackburn Rovers!
    I'm stuck on my 15" regular tv atm, i want HD! but all these reviews of it being blury sound back lol. and at the price aswell :S
     
  27. numberoneson

    numberoneson wankin you off wit lips.x

    12 May 2003
    Manchester
    Manchester City
  28. ibu2003

    ibu2003 Competition Killer

    2 August 2003
    London
    Newcastle United
    I said when playing via component there is no problem (or less of when using a ps2 for example) than when using RGB.

    RGB is an old tech for the older CRT screens not very much use on tvs that would be better with VGA, Component or HDMI which is the standards for :CD or Plasma screens now.
     
  29. jumbo

    jumbo Premiership

    30 May 2003
    WE Heaven
    Before you send your TV back and buy another one:

    All LCD TV's have motion blur. No matter what people tell you.

    Motion blur is not related to latenancy or anything other spec. It's a technological deficiency that has been resolved only in the labs so far. We got to wait for the next-generation of LCD's for that. Probably the next-gen LED LCD or LCOS TV's.

    By the way, I have the same TV.
     
    Last edited: 13 October 2006
  30. Jimmy G-Force

    Jimmy G-Force Resident PES Fanman

    13 April 2003
    Darlington
    Middlesbrough F.C.
    Interesting thread, as I was looking for the exact same one...

    Just bought a 42" Plasma, HD ready T.V. especially for WE10/Pro Evo, but I'm devastated about the quality, the games are all blurry and its as if the TV cant handle the framerate, and its for worse than my 32'' LCD.

    Please dont tell me I've wasted a grand on nothing ?

    The Xbox 360 games are awesome, but the PS2 WE10 is dreadful, and no matter what I do, whichever pciture setting I choose its always the same.

    The cut screens look wicked, but the gameplay sucks ?

    Any ideas as it has very good pixel quality ?


    Want to hang myself. :0(

    Can I use a component to connect my PS2 to my TV instead of scart ? If so whats a component and where do I get it please ? never heard of it, pardon my ignorance.

    I do appreciate you lose picture quality on a bigger screen, but after 1st playing the latest Fight Night on the 360 and being blown away by my new T.V., I'm left devastated by my only real reason to go for this T.V, We10/Pe5 looking so, so bad.

    What should I do ? take it back ? Or will PES6 on the 360 not have this problem ? I know the ball looked blurred on Topspin 2, I really hope PE^ on the 360 isnt like this, I dont even really want to move from my PS2 for my football fun anyway.


    I was really hoping WE10 was going to be sensational on this TV, I couldnbt be more wrong or more gutted.



    Jimmy .....
     

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