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Argentine Player arrested in Brazil after racist comments in the game.

Discussion in 'Football' started by Fred_Gavioes, 14 April 2005.

  1. Fred_Gavioes

    Fred_Gavioes Brazilian showman

    19 February 2003
    Lowell/Massachusetts/USA
    CORINTHIANS and BRASIL
    Police arrest player after cup tie
    Thursday, April 14, 2005 Posted: 1335 GMT (2135 HKT)




    SAO PAULO, Brazil -- An Argentine soccer player was detained after a Copa Libertadores match in Brazil on Wednesday because of alleged racist insults.

    Quilmes defender Leandro Desabato was escorted off the field by police and later arrested after allegedly insulting Sao Paulo striker Grafite with racist remarks in Sao Paulo's 3-1 victory over Quilmes in Group 3 of the South American club competition.

    Grafite and Desabato clashed in the 44th minute at Morumbi stadium in Sao Paulo.

    The incident followed Desabato's alleged racist remarks, police agent Oswaldo Nico Goncalves said.

    Desabato was expected to be charged with racist insults, and could face from one to three years in prison if convicted, Goncalves said.

    Goncalves said he ordered the arrest because the insults were caught by television cameras and because Grafite made a formal complaint against the Argentine player during halftime.

    Desabato was escorted into the locker room after the match, and then was taken to a police department for interrogation. Goncalves said Desabato was expected to spend the night in jail.

    Grafite ended up pushing Desabato during the altercation and was ejected by Uruguayan referee Martin Vazquez. Quilmes midfielder Carlos Arano was sent off because he also got involved in the altercation.

    Grafite previously said that he was subjected to racism during Sao Paulo's first encounter with Quilmes in Argentina.

    "There's no need for all this chaos," said Quilmes coach Gustavo Alfaro who confirmed the arrest. "A football match should start and finish on the pitch.

    "This has all been handled the wrong way. It was an unnecessary spectacle -- (for the police) to come on to the field in front of 50,000 or 60,000 people when the player's pulse-rate is still high, he's just lost a game .

    "There should be a different way of dealing with this . Nobody has benefitted from this."

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    I watched the game, and it was very sad of what happened with Grafite, i hope this can show the world that in latin america or any part of the world people will not tolerate racism anymore!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Ike

    Ike permaninizated

    18 March 2003
    :shock:
     
  3. Milanista

    Milanista Mangiamoli! Staff

    19 December 2002
    London & Milan
    AC Milan
    Should do that in Europe aswell.... then you'll see racism die.
     
  4. EatonTJ

    EatonTJ Why Today Doesn't Suck. Staff

    11 April 2002

    While the sentiment is good, I think the law is absolutely terrible. Arresting people for expressing their ideas seems to be bordering on "big brother" type censorship.

    Perhaps they could just arrest him for attempting to incite a fight instead....
     
  5. lucasetor

    lucasetor Conference

    12 June 2003
    Saint Peter, MN
    Well maybe big brother censorship is just what is needed especially in a country that has had a racist past. Many are not aware of how much devastation racism can cause a country. This sort of divisiveness and hatred can tear a country apart. Racism leads to unrest and terror, any country worth its salt should make its expression illegal and tantamount to criminal prosecution.
     
  6. gomito#10

    gomito#10 World Cup Winner

    9 May 2003
    DC, USA
    yeha but eatonj has a point, where do you draw the line, if i say your a "white cracker" should I be arrested for that, who determines what is racist and what is not? How do you define racisim. Is it only against black people? Spanish? Indian? Im not sure how a free society can have laws against speech... in any form... Should rappers be thrown in jail for racisit lyrics?
     
  7. EatonTJ

    EatonTJ Why Today Doesn't Suck. Staff

    11 April 2002

    Oh sure, racism can be quite horrific... my point is that someone is being arrested for essentially giving their opinion (I guess that's what happened)... and although he probably said something offensive, I don't think he should be arrested for being offensive (as csaunders said).

    I mean if he's trying to provoke a fight, or making threats, just arrest him for that.

    Hopefully, no law like this will take hold in the USA.
     
  8. Simmsm88

    Simmsm88 League 2

    29 July 2003
    The whole U.S. would be in jail.
     
  9. smango

    smango Guest

    Bit over the top. I can't believe someone can be sentenced to jail for using words. You could kill or mame someone and recieve less time in prison or no time at all.

    Racism is a problem but sentencing people to jail terms isn't going to fix the problme, people need to be educated not punished.
     
  10. juveboy

    juveboy Juve con te!

    3 January 2003
    Torino
    Juventus
    Let the inmates educate them lol
     
  11. scratch-br

    scratch-br Mr. Scratcher

    14 December 2004
    Montpellier
    So.. explaining.
    I am brazilian. I watched the match. And then i read about this this morning.

    "Ele chamou Grafite de 'macaco', 'negrinho' e mandou enfiar a banana em um lugar do corpo que eu não posso repetir para vocês agora"

    He (Desabato) called Grafite of 'monkey', 'nigger' and told him to put a banana in a body part that i cannot say to you now...
    Words of the president of the Black commission and anti-discrimination causes in the brazilian law.

    Then, this afternoon, the brazilian government, by the ministry of Sport, said:
    "a atitude racista do jogador argentino vai contra todos os valores de igualdade, respeito e união que o esporte promove"

    The racist attitude of the argentinian player goes against all values of equality, respect and union that the sport promoves.

    I agree.
    Maybe not to arrest. Conmebol should suspense the player for a year, and Quilmes would have to pay a lot for this.

    But, in my opinion, principally on Arg-Bra matches, this shows that we (brazil) can work seriously when needed.

    That's it. I just hope this finishes anywhere in the world, america or europe.

    Sorry for my english mates.
     
  12. smango

    smango Guest

    I don't think him recieving a bit of jail house love is going to fix the problem.
     
  13. tato

    tato Guest

    I don't think Luis Aragonés will plan going holidays to Brazil this year :lmao:
     

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