Basically i just asked when the patch is coming out, they have no idea. They just said Konami is working alongside Microsoft to fix the issue of the online lag. I asked whether the patch would be out before CHRISTMAS and he said he hopes so but there is no date. I didn't think this was a microsoft problem though so i guess they are helping Konami out...they definitely need it!!! They didn;t do 2 vs 2 online cause they said they wanted the game to flow like it did offline, so they did 1 vs 1... RESULT... worst online pro evo experience ever! Congrats Konami, Congrats!