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About 3rd kit

Discussion in 'Pro Evolution Soccer' started by NiTrO.Tn, 5 September 2012.

  1. NiTrO.Tn

    NiTrO.Tn -Stark`

    6 March 2010
    Play3Live have, recently, had an interview with Kei Masuda and Ippei Nio from the PES Team ..
    They discussed about PES 2013 ..
    Play3Live asked about 3rd kit and its possibilty to be included in the next game ..
    in English
    So we ought to ask for 3rd kit through facebook and twitter ..
    what do you think ?
     
  2. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    Demand for third kits not strong enough?

    We've only been asking for them for years now!

    As for listening to the fans......:FAIL:
     
  3. Baxter

    Baxter International

    23 August 2011
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  4. Chris00

    Chris00 Banned

    17 November 2010
    Lol... konami... I remember Jon Murphy blamed the lack of third kits on the engine and also promised them for PES 2014 (I think!).
     
  5. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    I like how they say they will "think of adding 3rd kit if they insist on this demand". Obviously lost in translation a little, but it comes across all wrong to me.
     
  6. Tim7

    Tim7 Retired Footballer

    6 May 2003
    Gravesend
    Charlton Athletic FC
    Probably doing it so they can add them anyway next year and say look, we listened to the fans...
     
  7. Simcut

    Simcut BF3 Addict

    1 September 2007
    Hertfordshire, England
    Newcastle & Barnet
    Listened to the fans after YEARS of waiting.... :| I cant believe they dont think the interest was strong enough lol
     
  8. cubby

    cubby League 1

    24 September 2009
    Glendale, WI.
    Milan/Italia
    What a joke, very frustrating to hear that!!! We have all demanded it for some time.
     
  9. Ameppe

    Ameppe SSC Napoli

    23 December 2007
    Didn't Adam say it was 100% certain we would have 3rd kits with pes 2014?
     
  10. Albiore

    Albiore Championship

    22 June 2009
    Santiago - Chile
    Univ. de Chile
    i think now need select kits for parts.
    Shirt, Short and Socks.
    For example actually in PES 2012 if i want to play
    Chile vs Spain it's imposible to make reallistic kit combination with current system.

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    the solution it's simple, make the kits for parts like this, only changing the shorts of spain's 2nd kit:

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  11. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    It's a licensing issue.
     
  12. Tim7

    Tim7 Retired Footballer

    6 May 2003
    Gravesend
    Charlton Athletic FC
    I used to love having all the variations of kits on KitServer back in the day, it was awesome! Hoping that Jenkey can do it again but not looking likely this year.
     
  13. jackarmy

    jackarmy SWIM AWAY!!!!!!

    4 November 2011
    Pretty shitty city
    Swansea City AFC
    Definitely the most pathetic issue for non-implementation of a game feature ever. I'm sure you could mix and match kit parts in PES5, I'm sure!
     
  14. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    Yes you could, but as I said, licensing put paid to that. I guess the kit manufacturers had issues with their home and away kits being mixed in potentially unrealistic ways.

    Pathetic I know, but that's how gaming is these days. Big business rules.
     
  15. nad2dare

    nad2dare League 1

    13 January 2005
    United Kingdom
    Arsenal,Barc,Juve,Mu,Rmad
    In Winning Eleven 10 / PES 5, we had the options to change the shirt, short, socks, before Konami took it out.
     
  16. Pere Ubu

    Pere Ubu Championship

    29 October 2002

    Well, it is pathetic but at least it's realistic to some extent. There are plenty of teams who don't give a toss and will quite happily mix and match the parts of their various kits to avoid a clash, but there are also loads who never break up the home kit. You never see Barca, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc playing in the home shirt with different coloured shorts. They'll mix up colours on the 2nd and 3rd kits, but not the "iconic" home kit... that's a very deliberate club image/branding thing, which is presumably the issue here. There are ways of getting round this, theoretically, but considering Konami don't even use the correct shirt number font on half the licensed teams, they're not going to give a toss about this kind of thing, are they?

    As for third kits - I just wonder if you have to pay 50% more again to license a third kit, or whether you just buy the kit rights all-in. I've got no idea how it works. If it's the former, we have our answer as to why they've never done it; if it's the latter then their laziness is truly appalling.

    Roma have always been the worst team in PES for this - I always wanted to play a season with them but never could, because of their red-white-white home kit and white-white-white away kit. Milan have generally had the same problem. Without the black third kit (and the option of mixing and matching shorts) it's a nightmare trying to play 50% of the other teams in the game away from home. Maybe they've now got the black as their away kit in PES, I can't remember... but it's a totally ludicrous situation anyway.
     
  17. Jamezinho

    Jamezinho Golden Boot Winner

    10 June 2003
    Ipswich, England
    Ipswich Town F.C.
    Yep, I think you are right Pere. In most cases kit mixing is unrealistic and against the club image.

    Milan and Inter were prime examples of how useful kit mixing could be in PES5. Both teams had all white away kits, providing the option of wearing white shorts (and socks) with the home shirt, which is something both teams regularly do in the real world.

    It would be nice if kit mixing could be done on a club by club basis for those clubs (like Milan) that regularly wear alternate home shorts and socks.

    As for third kits, they really are a must for next year. Too often I come across unavoidable kit clashes. Even an option in the edit mode for user created third kits would be something.
     
  18. Tim7

    Tim7 Retired Footballer

    6 May 2003
    Gravesend
    Charlton Athletic FC
    All we need is a fully functioning KitServer again! :DD
     
  19. jackarmy

    jackarmy SWIM AWAY!!!!!!

    4 November 2011
    Pretty shitty city
    Swansea City AFC
    Doesn't help when some teams have pointless away kits which Konami put in the game, and when you play two of those teams against each other, it doesn't resolve any kit clashing issues whatsoever.

    For example in PES2012, playing Celtic against Sporting or St. Etienne, almost unplayable as a result. For Konami to blame the game engine or lack of demand is nonsense, FIFA !cough! has had third kits in the game for years.
     

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