Good day to all,
I am a fan of this forum, feel that their is quality discussion over here.
Just want to share what i thought about FIFA at the moment.
by now, we know that FIFA 10 have a few bugs , mainly with MM mode. However i feel the core of the gameplay is still excellent. The necessary improvements are made from Fifa 09 which had made the latter almost unplayable after sometime (eg, shooting , cant take on defender except through sprinting) .
With that being said, i really do enjoy FIFA 10 at the moment. I just want to share with you guys what i did and what to edit to really enhance the playing experience.
First, i list my main gripes of the game play that some of the ppl or me feel annoying when i first played the game
1) AI pressure too intensely and player cant hold on to the ball long enough to dictate plays.
2) AI doenst score often enough or AI always use the same method of scoring
3) Full back dont overlap
How i overcome the Gripes
One of the biggest improvement FIFA did in the next gen is to introduce CUSTOM TACTICS. This is what really define the core of gameplay. For eg, when the correct setting, Arsenal and Stoke will be wide apart in the way they play the game. Epl team and an la liga team will play differently. You will be able to feel the difference obviously when playing the game.
However, i feel that the FIFA data team did not really did a good job in this area (Rutter, read this pls). Because most team had incorrect setting for their CUSTOM TACTICS. This make most of the team feel the same way. I had check the setting for most team, especially the lesser known team. They had almost 70 for all custom tactics setting (Pressure 70!!!) . This why u feel that u r being forced to play a ping pong game all the time because of the pressure by the AI.
What did i do - i played mostly exhibition games involving english premier league teams. I d/l an excel template where i played every fixtures of every team myself. As such, i manually record all the scores of the game and put into the excel file. What do i gain from this? A very exciting premier league race. (does anyone of u do the same?) . I can also have realistic weather and day/night games according to the real fixture...
To make the game realistic, i edit the CUSTOM TACTICS of every EPL teams and their Formation. This is a few good threads over here that discuss correct interpretation of tactics and formation of various epl teams. It is very important to edit each team correctly so that they really played like itself in real life. I list an example, Stoke. They like to defend deep and narrow. As such, Pressure should not be high in the 70 range. They should be around 30. With width around 35 as well. When u played them, u will realised that defend deep with numbers ( correct formation had to be adjusted to do this) and it is very hard to break them down with the 1st goal. Once u scored the 1st, AI will start to attack and u will end up scoring more goals this way.
Most of the default formation are also in a mess. They had arrow pointing everywhere and the wrong defend / attack priority. This make certain team lose their shape easily when playing. There should be minimal arrows pointing unless it is for DM to track back or wingers to cut in instead of storming down the wing.
2nd Gripe - AI doesnt score enough or they only use the same method of scoring.
To counter this, I believe the only way is to choose legendary level of difficulty. I feel the AI is better only in legendary mode, ie; they made better decisions , esp when attacking.
I feel that there is not much difference between world class and legendary if you had the custom tactics and formation adjusted correctly. To elaborate,
Some of the lesser known team had 70 for all custom tactics , including crossing, speed and shooting. As a result, the AI will have only one objective when they have the ball, quickly get the ball to the wing and cross. Not every lesser known team play like that. U need to adjust all this according to your own interpretation of the team (that becos u r playing against AI) or get some reference from the various threads around.
3rd Gripe - Full back dont overlap.
The solution was highlighted in one of the thread. You can solve this by changing the base position of the full back to wing back. Put attack arrow up and high priority on attack. It feel really good seeing your alves, evra or boswinga bombing down the wing on their own.
My other settings
Speed of game - Slow (i feel normal is too fast)
Time - 7 mins (so that you can take your time to stroke the ball around and still have a realistic scoreline plus stats (shots on goal etc)
What i hope FIFA can really do to improve the game
To conclude, FIFA really did well in the core gameplay, animations etc.
But their incorrect use of custom tactics and formation really hamper the gameplay. It is not much, but if you looking for realism, you be very particular about this type of things.
My biggest annoyance is the lack of abilities to proper edit player stats. We can make arsenal play like arsenal in custom tactics, but we cant make Vermalern play like him in the game because of the lack of proper stats editing tools. We cant make him shoot harder, jump higher or head better in the game. The whole world know he is better than that. I just want to edit him for my own exhibition match enjoyment. FIFA should allow us to do that.
2nd suggestion. Option to edit individual player tendencies in the game. (like Football manager where u can tell you play to go up for corners, or keep the ball more often- for AI). This will counter the problems of AI not being realistic.
I hope u enjoy the post and feel free to share your own experience to make the game better as well. We cant always wait for patch updates. Ha.
cheers.
I am a fan of this forum, feel that their is quality discussion over here.
Just want to share what i thought about FIFA at the moment.
by now, we know that FIFA 10 have a few bugs , mainly with MM mode. However i feel the core of the gameplay is still excellent. The necessary improvements are made from Fifa 09 which had made the latter almost unplayable after sometime (eg, shooting , cant take on defender except through sprinting) .
With that being said, i really do enjoy FIFA 10 at the moment. I just want to share with you guys what i did and what to edit to really enhance the playing experience.
First, i list my main gripes of the game play that some of the ppl or me feel annoying when i first played the game
1) AI pressure too intensely and player cant hold on to the ball long enough to dictate plays.
2) AI doenst score often enough or AI always use the same method of scoring
3) Full back dont overlap
How i overcome the Gripes
One of the biggest improvement FIFA did in the next gen is to introduce CUSTOM TACTICS. This is what really define the core of gameplay. For eg, when the correct setting, Arsenal and Stoke will be wide apart in the way they play the game. Epl team and an la liga team will play differently. You will be able to feel the difference obviously when playing the game.
However, i feel that the FIFA data team did not really did a good job in this area (Rutter, read this pls). Because most team had incorrect setting for their CUSTOM TACTICS. This make most of the team feel the same way. I had check the setting for most team, especially the lesser known team. They had almost 70 for all custom tactics setting (Pressure 70!!!) . This why u feel that u r being forced to play a ping pong game all the time because of the pressure by the AI.
What did i do - i played mostly exhibition games involving english premier league teams. I d/l an excel template where i played every fixtures of every team myself. As such, i manually record all the scores of the game and put into the excel file. What do i gain from this? A very exciting premier league race. (does anyone of u do the same?) . I can also have realistic weather and day/night games according to the real fixture...
To make the game realistic, i edit the CUSTOM TACTICS of every EPL teams and their Formation. This is a few good threads over here that discuss correct interpretation of tactics and formation of various epl teams. It is very important to edit each team correctly so that they really played like itself in real life. I list an example, Stoke. They like to defend deep and narrow. As such, Pressure should not be high in the 70 range. They should be around 30. With width around 35 as well. When u played them, u will realised that defend deep with numbers ( correct formation had to be adjusted to do this) and it is very hard to break them down with the 1st goal. Once u scored the 1st, AI will start to attack and u will end up scoring more goals this way.
Most of the default formation are also in a mess. They had arrow pointing everywhere and the wrong defend / attack priority. This make certain team lose their shape easily when playing. There should be minimal arrows pointing unless it is for DM to track back or wingers to cut in instead of storming down the wing.
2nd Gripe - AI doesnt score enough or they only use the same method of scoring.
To counter this, I believe the only way is to choose legendary level of difficulty. I feel the AI is better only in legendary mode, ie; they made better decisions , esp when attacking.
I feel that there is not much difference between world class and legendary if you had the custom tactics and formation adjusted correctly. To elaborate,
Some of the lesser known team had 70 for all custom tactics , including crossing, speed and shooting. As a result, the AI will have only one objective when they have the ball, quickly get the ball to the wing and cross. Not every lesser known team play like that. U need to adjust all this according to your own interpretation of the team (that becos u r playing against AI) or get some reference from the various threads around.
3rd Gripe - Full back dont overlap.
The solution was highlighted in one of the thread. You can solve this by changing the base position of the full back to wing back. Put attack arrow up and high priority on attack. It feel really good seeing your alves, evra or boswinga bombing down the wing on their own.
My other settings
Speed of game - Slow (i feel normal is too fast)
Time - 7 mins (so that you can take your time to stroke the ball around and still have a realistic scoreline plus stats (shots on goal etc)
What i hope FIFA can really do to improve the game
To conclude, FIFA really did well in the core gameplay, animations etc.
But their incorrect use of custom tactics and formation really hamper the gameplay. It is not much, but if you looking for realism, you be very particular about this type of things.
My biggest annoyance is the lack of abilities to proper edit player stats. We can make arsenal play like arsenal in custom tactics, but we cant make Vermalern play like him in the game because of the lack of proper stats editing tools. We cant make him shoot harder, jump higher or head better in the game. The whole world know he is better than that. I just want to edit him for my own exhibition match enjoyment. FIFA should allow us to do that.
2nd suggestion. Option to edit individual player tendencies in the game. (like Football manager where u can tell you play to go up for corners, or keep the ball more often- for AI). This will counter the problems of AI not being realistic.
I hope u enjoy the post and feel free to share your own experience to make the game better as well. We cant always wait for patch updates. Ha.
cheers.
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We need a data base on here then...
